Friday, April 16, 2021

It's Time to talk about 'Time'.

The first observation I have alluded to before. The two up waves since the 23 Mar 2020 low are now approximately equal in 'time' at roughly 58-59 bars each. See the ES 2-daily chart below. This, of course, is a very reasonable 1:1 Fibonacci relationship.

ES Futures - 2 Day - Time Equality

If the waves are labeled as Intermediate (W), (X) and (Y), then, in fact, in the last two days Intermediate (Y) just became 'longer in time' than Intermediate (W), and that even accounts for the fact that the (X) wave low may have truncated. So, using the principles of degree labeling, that means that the two waves should at least be of the same degree, or else the second wave is of one higher degree. In this chart, I am not interested in price, or a top, just the rough equality of the waves in time.

There is also something else one should note from the above chart: there is virtually no alternation in the wave segments. Each segment (Y) and (W) start off with something that looks impulsive. Then there is a big hump in the middle which may be a running wave, then there is another segment that looks impulsive. Let me diagram that for you.

ES Futures - 2 Day - Lack of Alternation

This lack of alternation suggests there is something very, very incorrect with those who are counting impulsively. The wave simply does not have the right look due to this lack of alternation. Right, but I thought this was about time? Well, it's about time! So, on to the next chart. This is the weekly chart of the ES futures.

ES Futures - 1 Week - Time Comparison of 'B' Waves

Here on the weekly chart, you can see on the left that the Intermediate (B) wave, up, of Primary ((A)) took about 60 bars. What is the significance of that? Well, we are now at 16 April 2021, and in about one month - or roughly 20 trading days - this upward wave would also exceed the length in time of the prior Intermediate (B) wave up, of the Primary ((A)) wave down. IF this up wave is a degree higher - as the Primary ((B)) wave I think it is - then, it stands to reason that it might not only be longer in price, which it is, but also longer in time to express that degree difference.

So, even if the Intermediate (Y) wave ended this coming week, it is still possible that (W)-(X)-(Y), the double zigzag, will extend in time to become the triple zigzag (W)-(X)-(Y)-(X)-(Z). It does not have to happen that way. But it could. The other way for it to happen, of course, is for the Intermediate (Y) wave to last another 20+ days. 

But, being a Primary ((B)) wave, then it can also be another zigzag longer in time that the Intermediate (B) wave, as well. We'll have to wait and see (no pun intended), and so I apologize for taking up so much of your time. Thanks for reading.

Have an excellent start to the weekend.

TraderJoe

53 comments:

  1. Thanks ET, Have a great weekend.

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    1. Welcome BBR, also, my two-day count in GOLD appears below @ 10:42 AM in response to The Child. U may have an interest.

      TJ

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    2. Yes, Thanks so much for the gold count.

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  2. interesting. Possibly presages a nod to the old bromide: "Sell in May..."

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  3. Thanks TJ!

    While the SPX has done quite well since the election, a few sectors have done even better - (if interested)

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bR23.png

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  4. Hi TJ! I have an EW problem not related to the above? Can a cycle degree correction be shorter than the two preceding primary wave corrections? I dont think Elliott wave principle touches on that. I think they just mention the right look. Other authors say that the next higher wave correction should be longer in time and height of the other two preceding waves. And can a zigzag truncate or be valid in general if its c wave is just above the b wave if the c wave actually completed all its waves on its way down?

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  5. Is diagonal a viable alternative to primary B ?

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    1. kavi .. the contracting diagonal variety was addressed long ago in this post (see the 2nd chart). It is no longer possible with the Dow above 32,000.

      http://studyofcycles.blogspot.com/2021/02/still-larger-count-reasonable-alternates.html

      The expanding diagonal variety can not be 'ruled in' at this time as that construction requires wave (3) - or wave (Y) in this case - to be 'longer' than wave (1) - or wave (W) in this case. And at this time (Y) is shorter than (W), not longer.

      Also, keep in mind the ending expanding diagonal is the pattern with the lowest odds of forming at any time. Not impossible - just lower odds. Further, if the up wave forms the three required zigzags for such an expanding diagonal; it may also be just the three zigzags (W)(X)(Y)(X)(Z) in an expanding shape.

      TJ

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  6. Lurker, hello, wondering if anyone has thoughts on the gold count. Thx.

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    1. Hi Child, this is my current two-day count in Gold. I don't think you will find it elsewhere. It is 'roughly' the opposite of the (W)-(X)-(Y) in the stock market. And, as far as I can tell all of the lengths work out well.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/EYpSTceO/

      Some notes: 1) as far as I can tell, no wave violates degree labeling; 2) that failure Flat in the middle had to be a real killer for the die-hard GOLD bulls who were looking for a inverse head-and-shoulders to play out much higher. The flat failed, and all they got was dandruff; 3) there may be a triangle B wave prior to the last move lower in C of (Y); and 4) the current up wave from the low is 'longer' in price than the first up wave - shown by the Fibonacci ruler - so we should start counting a/i, b/ii from the low with a possible target of the upper parallel channel line.

      Hope this helps,
      TJ

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    2. Thanks TJ, you are very kind.
      (I changed my blogger handle).

      I noticed a big move up out of a channel in the miners this week, leading gold this time.

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  7. ET: You never have to apologize for taking up so much time. I always enjoy reading your posts.

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  8. A look back at the turn in the XLE - (if interested)

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bRgb.png

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  9. Can we see what sentinment is like ?

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    1. I showed sentiment last weekend, at the fourth chart in this post.

      http://studyofcycles.blogspot.com/2021/04/elliott-not-being-followed.html

      It has ticked up further to 61.9 this week. AAII actually fell off a bit meaning it was the 'pros' that got more bullish.

      TJ

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  10. XLK (wkly), losing our religion? :o)

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bRhT.png

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    1. Isn't overlap of closing price more important than the highest high? And thank you for you post.

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  11. Hello Tj, Thanks for the detailed post. I am just curious regarding your second chart in the post "looks impulsive" "hump in the Middle".
    Not that it matters now, but how would you count it impulsive say from Nov 1st till Feb?

    Thanks in advance

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    1. I wouldn't. I was using the words "looks impulsive" to mean - "large, somewhat vertical price rise", focusing more on 'looks' rather than impulsive. I wouldn't 'count' it as an impulse. I would count it as a diagonal.

      TJ

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    2. Thanks- Messiest wave I have ever encountered.

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  12. Been reading the sector rotation model by Gilorgos Siligardos, posted in the 2012 August Stocks and Commodities magazine. In a normal sector rotation trend Financials begin the trend then we move into Discretionary, Industrials, Raw materials and Energy at the peak. Staples, Heath care and Utilities end the trend. In looking for a way to apply this to the current trend Utilities has out performed other sectors. I'll going to continue looking for different way to apply Mr Siligardos work. Sector Rotation Model is a study in think or swim software.
    Has anyone ever study the use of Sector Rotation? I don't use stock charts but I understand they have what I'd assume is a similar study.

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    1. Clarification, Utilities has out performed other sectors lately.

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    2. Rotation - chart

      https://funkyimg.com/i/3bRkC.png

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    3. If you are interested in sector rotation, Terry Long does a weekly segment at this YouTube Channel. From what I understand, he uses the Goldman Sachs model.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzU23AbIq_0

      Warning: Todd is running a fund now. That seems to have made him a perma-bull. He does little wave counting any more. I personally don't use their information for the wave count, as they often ignore degree analysis in the EW counts.

      TJ

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  13. CRB (wkly) - holding its own (for now) - (if interested)

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bRnY.png

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    1. Nice work again! Keep it up. I'm sure many are gaining from your insights.

      TJ

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  14. BTC (wkly) - a current look

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bRFM.png

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    1. I was wondering if it was an ending diagnol on btc on the daily chart. Rumors abound that the treasury is going to take action against financial institutions using crypto for money laundering. Thanks GW

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    2. Did close down for the week, but not below Tline. Will see if we get more definitive downward movement this coming week.

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  15. https://schrts.co/GEyydhqq

    Stocks above 50 dma down with Q’s at ATH.

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  16. Good evening. ES lower low after the gap down open likely equals five-waves-down but it is still difficult to tell if it is a 'c' wave, ending a fourth wave, or if it will start a new wave down. Only way to tell is whether the high is exceeded or not. P.S. This fifth wave lower is only good to about 4,158 as an impulse; so if it goes lower than that then look for something more complicated like a longer diagonal.

    Otherwise, on a 3-min chart, see if the MACD turns higher on a divergent low.

    TJ

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    1. ..chart ..

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/2HAVZo63/

      TJ

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    2. so far the expected is occurring. The MACD has turned higher, over the zero line, and the fourth wave, 4, has been exceeded higher.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/kLclq5r3/

      Next item of interest is if the up wave take more time than the down wave, fail to go over the high, or if wave 5 will be exceeded lower first.

      TJ

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  17. Late look (3min) -

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bRWC.png

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    1. Move back into acc. chanel looks more like a list-less drift. At some point we really should see an impulsive reversal that decisively breaches both channels and TLs to signal we're done. Don't think we're quite there yet...

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  18. Good morning. Here is the ES 30-min intraday wave-counting-screen, with updated daily pivot points (classic calculation), and local fractals.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/av7Z2Lf5/

    The R1 daily pivot is off-screen at 4,187.
    TJ

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    1. ES 30-min & SPY (15 min) new lows.

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    2. This is now the tentative 'base channel' to monitor on any retracement, also to see if a third wave pierces it lower.

      https://invst.ly/uimuu

      TJ

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  19. Gold Spot (daily/hrly) informational - a look at using the lower TF to help confirm the higher at a recent turn (if interested) -

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bS7i.png

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  20. A current look at the hrly - (one view)

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bS8f.png

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  21. Thoughts on sector rotation and current market "stage" (food for thought) - (wkly)

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3bS9r.png

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  22. ES 30-min; note the S2 location.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/7DO64B4Z/

    TJ

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  23. SPX first touch of 34 ema on 60 min since 3/26.

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  24. If past price action is any indication, the island reversal patterns in DJIA and SPX will once more prove bullish! Becoming rather amusing to observe...

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