Current Suggestion

Tops of any degree can be darn difficult. In our local case, we don't know for sure that a truncation has occurred. But, if it did occur, it could have happened in one of two places. Those are both shown in the SPX500 (CFD) 4-hr chart below, market with the red asterisk and question mark.

SPX500 (CFD) - 4 Hr - Channel

So, the best suggestion at this time is to draw the parallel, as shown and see if today's high is exceeded higher. If it is, then the A/B/C count lower may best pertain, especially if there should be upward overlap. Otherwise, it will be harder to claim a larger degree "five-down" until or unless there is a new low from here. Then, if there is, there could still be confusion with the nominal high made on 6 Oct. And that is why there is also a purple 1 & 2 shown in the count with purple 1 near the low.

If the market is to truly be weak, then it must show that character. If it is to be stronger, it could still wheeze upward into a larger diagonal. So far, the buying has persisted into yesterday. If the market can truly be perceived in a down trend at this time, that buying would seem a bit odd - unless the buyers are ignoring all the warnings (or those doing the buying have nothing to lose - like government officials, etc.)

So, caution, patience and flexibility are still highly recommended until the market speaks more clearly.

Have an excellent rest of the day and start to the weekend.

TraderJoe

Caution Flags Flying

Because today 'can' be currently counted as 'five-waves-down', there is some probability that, contrary to the 8,000 hype, the upward count is over. Note, this count, the truncation count, still requires better confirmation, but it should receive serious consideration because of the sloppy upward progress of the last several sessions.

The count is shown here in the ES rollover contract, but cash would be similar. There is no reason that a throw-over of the upper wedge is required, and those who think this must happen might be abandoned by price. The RSI hasn't quite broken a larger trend line from late July, yet. But it could.

We will have to wait and watch for both that and further confirmation signals in upcoming days.

Have an excellent rest of the day and start to the evening,

TraderJoe

Nary A Touch Lower

Overnight the ES futures (and the SPX500 CFD, below) made a higher daily high near the R1 daily pivot level. But, as the SPX500 30- minute intraday wave-counting-screen, IWCS, shows, price could not close outside the lower band this morning.

SPX500 (CFD) - 30 minute - IWCS

Further, price could not close on or below the daily Pivot level (P) and is headed back for the 18-period intraday moving average after the intraday slow stochastic lost its embedded status.

Short-term we continue to follow the local technicals as prices continue to try to resolve to a fuller EW count.

Have an excellent rest of the day.

TraderJoe

EWaves Envy ?

As you might know, Elliott Prechter, the son of Robert Prechter from Elliott Wave International, has spent a LOT of time and money developing the EWaves program which is purported to automatically scan thousands of markets or stocks quickly and look for their conformance to Elliott Wave patterns. I have no doubt that with today's computer capabilities that is largely or at least mostly true. For my part, I am just here to say that at least for daily and weekly charts, you can "mimic" what the EWaves charts look and feel like, just by using the Zigzag indicator on TradingView as the daily chart of the ES futures (roll-over contract) shows below.

ES Futures - Daily - ZigZag Indicator Wave Counting

This chart is current as of today. EWaves intentionally avoids using circled letters and numbers for clarity and, instead, uses larger or smaller numerals, and/or colors for wave-degree distinction.

If the ZigZag indicator is used in TradingView, one just hides the price series so that the overall form of the wave appears. The purpose of this ZigZag indicator is to provide the true "terminal points" of the move - which are often inaccurate if just closing prices are used.

When you look at this chart, among other things you might ask, "why were the letters A & B assigned to the blue labels?" It is because B wave retrace is only about 38+% which is typically smaller than a second wave, which is most often 50 - 62%. That is really the prime rationale, but the other portion of the rationale is the look of A wave - which has the look of a non-pullback wave. These no-pullback waves are often either A or C waves.

Now, we don't claim this method can scan a lot of stocks or indexes. Nor does it do the automatic labeling that Ewaves does. But if you have a few that are of interest, you might try this method to improve your own wave-labeling skills. It is very, very possible that EWaves is on to a real advantage here - and one that can take out some of the emotion. But it likely may be too pricey for some individuals and seems largely targeted to subscription services and institutions.

Have an excellent start to the evening,

TraderJoe

Everyone Raise their Hands

This is the question that literally everyone knows the answer to: When wave three is shorter than wave one, how long can wave five be? Don't everyone raise their hands at once. Of course, it should be (for a valid Elliott Wave count) that wave five should not be longer than wave three. That is because in any count the third wave is never the shortest wave. So, in the daily chart, below, a measurement is possible.

ES Dec Futures - Daily - Measurement

Thus, in the lead month futures contract (ESZ2026), if the count above has the third wave at the August high, then the fifth wave simply should not exceed 8,093. Yup, that is the question everyone knows the answer to. We know that today the NQ futures and cash S&P500 and SPY did go on to make higher highs. Interestingly, the ESZ did not, as you see above.

But the question a few more are hesitant on is, "what if the third wave is still in progress"? If there is a misinterpretation that the late-July, early-August up wave is actually a "5", and not a "3", then perhaps price is making a diagonal "(c)" wave of minute-iii, ((iii)), or circle-iii. That is possible at this point.

I've seen diagonals do a lot of freaky things to try to stall before the inevitable. This one might also - given that index pricing could easily be driven by a large leveraged bet in a high cap name. If that is so, then a third wave could become longer in price which might drive the fifth wave to a higher high than shown.

So, while there are quite a few ways price could take a steep plunge from here - that we are on our toes for - there are still ways for the market to delay, to frustrate, to whip, and to mislead. We will not be surprised if the market does that.

And we are calm, patient and flexible, not only until an ending count can be determined but also until there is decent confirmation of a turn. We remain vigilant if a truncation should occur. We continue to follow the local technicals as we did today, paying keen attention to prices being over the upper daily Bollinger Band in an over-bought condition on the daily slow stochastic. And we are monitoring the intraday wave-counting-screen (IWCS) to give clues to more immediate price direction. But at the moment, price is still well over the 18-day SMA, so the daily bias is up at this time. That could change. There could be an outside reversal bar at any time, but until there is, there is mostly the "hard right edge of the chart".

What else is there? Well, there may be a time when the right question becomes, "what is a good time to build a core position for a turn lower?" Don't everyone raise their hands with the answer.

Have an excellent rest of the evening,

TraderJoe

So far ...

Prices have come soooo far since 1932, since 1974, since 1987, since 2001, since 2009, since 2021, and so far, prices still have the right look for both a larger and smaller contracting diagonal. We have shown the larger two-weekly one many times, and it has the right look on a log-scale chart. The daily one is below is shown, and it has the right look currently on either scale.

The initial B - to - ((ii)) trend line was broken in what may be the underthrow for the overlapping fourth wave. And a fifth wave may be in progress. The PPO indicator currently diverges on each subsequent peak, and has touched the zero line twice since June. The upper trend line has multiple touch points. The only item that would be nicer would be if the retraces for the second and fourth waves were closer to 62% or more.

On Friday, the Payroll report gave prices another lift higher, but then they stalled. It seemed like an ideal time to take prices over the prior high, but they just wheezed. We're not making too much of it. We're just remaining calm, patient and flexible pending short-term technical developments. The NQ futures did go over the high again. Still, the four hour chart can give one some markers, as below.

At the moment, the odds slightly favor the uptrend in force. But one needs to watch the recent trend line and Thursday's low for a presumptive invalidation of the uptrend should it occur this week (with better confirmation below 7,575). The prior high is certainly a target for a continued move higher. If slightly higher highs are made, it may wind up only be the minuet (a) wave of minute ⓥ with a (b), and (c) to follow.

But, make no mistake, ES prices are stretched to inanity, and declines should not surprise. I say that because so few stocks and or indexes are participating in the rally. The NYSE Advance/Decline line is clearly not at new highs at this time.

Sentiment is also stretched to an extent not seen before - with my proprietary bullish sentiment indicator indicating more consecutive weeks over 60% bullish than at any time in the past. It's not the highest reading ever, but it is more sustained than in prior runs. People are rotating from "Good news is good news", to "Bad news is good news". In other words, they want to see economic weakness to drop interest rates some to lift stocks more. This has happened in many prior cycles too. It may be a sign of hope developing. And remember, a bear market skids on the slope of hope - should one begin.

One can argue that the Dow and the Russell 2000 have begun significant declines. If so, the Dow especially would just be validating the longer-term two week contracting diagonal. It had quite a few days down, which might indicate  a turn of degree, but one would want to see a greater price extent.

Have an excellent rest of the weekend,

TraderJoe

Outside-Day-Down

Today, we were counting downward for the potential Ⓔ wave of a triangle representing the end-of-month and end-of-quarter window-dressing. We warned that the current scenario supported multiple counts, and we got one which broke the triangle lower in the futures - after the cash SPY had broken yesterday. The selling into the close was sufficient to make an outside-day-down, after we had counted three waves up. So, the conditions of the chart, below, are now an outside day down, and a swing-line indicator with a lower high and a lower low, and a close below the 18-day SMA.

ES Futures - Daily - Outside Day Down

The daily show stochastic is no longer over-bought, it has 'worked-off' that condition, but it is also still above the 50 level, and so, it is not over-sold. So, an analyst like Ira might give the advice that "until the high of the outside day is exceeded higher, then price might try to make a run for the 100-day, the lower daily Bollinger band, or - even possibly - the 200 day SMA."

And any low below the low of 16 Sept might set off the potential truncated top shown by the red asterisk *. So far, it looks like if we go up, it might be by diagonal, and if we lower there is one way it might be by impulse, but there are insufficient waves to show it yet.

So, tomorrow is the first-of-the-new-month, and the first-of-the-new-quarter. We'll see how many money managers want to fire all their bullets at the first of October, and who want to keep some powder dry. Since, a truncated top is a real possibility, no amount of downward movement should be perceived as out of the question. The question is whether further upward waves can be made or not. If they are, we have one count for that, but it would invalidate below that 16 Sep low.

Have an excellent start to the evening,

TraderJoe