Yesterday, well before the FED meeting blog contributor Greywaver and I were having a discussion about the potential of the expanding triangle fourth wave scenario. As Gw pointed out, Neely said he has not typically seen them in fourth wave positions. Further, we both understood that the wave (v) from an expanded triangle should try to approach the wave (iii) in height, even if it did fail. And, still, it should measure at least 0.618 the length of wave (d). As Gw pointed out, it didn't. Therefore, the high of that wave provided as a warning in a down count. Further, this alternate was quickly developed and clearly presented.
As noted at about 1:06 PM, wave (v) could have already occurred with wave (v) on the 8th. That would leave the remaining structure as an expanded flat wave with the low at the 'typical maximum' for an expanded flat of c = 2.618 x a.
That measurement held today. Then, before the FED meeting at 12:05 pm, we further showed an internal measurement, much lower than the failure of the expanding triangle at SPY 461.72 and said to watch that level closely because it would likely mean the down wave in progress would likely be ending. That level was beaten twice: once shortly before the FED report, and once after.
The reaction to the FED's intended actions caused an initial up wave, and then a 1.618 wave following it - all totaling 100+ S&P points from 6,602 to 6,706 in two hours' time. With this, the daily bias shifted to upward, and the daily slow stochastic is still currently over-bought.
The market is especially volatile in both directions. It requires flexibility, patience and an open-minded attitude to count waves under these conditions. What makes me happy, is that we could engage in a real discussion of wave characteristics. We did not get an expanding triangle fourth wave. And this is a good review for all, that under the right conditions an expanded flat can mimic most of the characteristics of an expanding triangle as an alternate.
Can new highs be made in the ES futures? Yes, it is possible, and even probable. We will continue to count waves as best we can as we see recognizable structures. What do I mean by that? I mean specifically that major tops are typically accompanied by either a triangle before the last wave-set or the fifth wave forms a diagonal. We have our antennas up for both, but at this time (if new all-time-highs are indeed made) it is too early to see anything of this type on the daily chart.
Have a good rest of the evening.
TraderJoe
Thanks joe
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Next target - 4887 and higher IMHO.
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Check out monthly spy/qqq and look at the bull divs there. If that plays out what could possibly happen to tech?
DeleteSPY/QQQ (mthly) - let's see how the month ends -
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Q's have strong volume and have reached the qqq/spy trend line. If it doesn't hold is it a concern for the whole market? Weekly Q's has been inside bars past 2 weeks assuming we hold tomorrow, slight divergence on RSI.
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Good morning all. Another whippy one. ES made a new all-time-high. SPY and SPX cash have not yet. Then ES gave up all its overnight gains, and had made the minimum necessary for a flat wave. There is a 'potential' new channel below.
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Confidence in this channel is about 60%, but it is possible.
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..chart is behind the typical 10-15 minutes, but a lower low below 4,697 has been made.
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SPY (2hr) Possible?
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Yes, 'possible' but not enough waves yet to make the case. Could also morph into an upward diagonal. Hence, my post.
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ES 30-min : in vicinity of prior fourth wave. Getting fairly close to lower channel line.
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ES 30-min: bounce off channel, and 50% retrace. Watch it closely.
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K (wkly) With staples starting to perk up, might this count be viable? Thanks!
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..viable .. good work!
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I'm wondering if the higher histo at 'd' is a "hint" that momentum is increasing for a move up?
DeleteNice catch, wonder if the new trend is consumer staples?
DeleteBased on my chart long ways up to the downward sloping 200ma.
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SPY 5-min: watch this channel and watch for potential upward overlap.
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SPY (5m) Assuming no extention -
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Follow up -
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5 waves into the reversal and 5 waves down. Given the nasty daily candle in the NDX...looks to me like a important top. Tomorrow should be quite bearish also. thanks for the chart.
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ReplyDeleteYour analysis is always so meticulous and well thought out, I sincerely appreciate reading it and learning.
As I read, I do keep seeing "FED" to describe the United States Federal Reserve Bank, and because I'm one of those annoying people who are always silently correcting the grammar of others, I just wanted to kindly point out that FED (in all caps) implies an acronym, which are typically expressed as the first letters of a multi-word phrase. In the case of the Federal Reserve Bank, perhaps you really mean to say "FRB", or "US FRB", or even 'furby' as a cute slang expression for said acronym.
However, if your intent was to abbreviate Federal Reserve Bank to simply "fed", I believe you'd simply say Fed - lower case, but with the capital F due to the name being a proper noun. Otherwise, it's analogous to somebody always calling the author Trader JOE, instead of Trader Joe...or TJ...or TJoe...
Thanks for the interesting and thorough analysis you provide.