Saturday, July 24, 2021

Larger Wedge

Yesterday, I posted the hourly wedge. I clearly stated that "right now" there are only three-waves-up, and, yet, the market could easily make it five-waves-up with some higher highs. Transferring that over the ES Daily chart, below, the price structure is just now at the point where the larger daily contracting diagonal I referred to earlier might be able to be visualized. I said at the time, "downward overlap was needed" before I would post that alternate, and that was obtained earlier in the week.

Right now - as it stands - wave ((iii)) is not only shorter in price, but also, shorter in time than wave ((i)) as you can see from the two 46 bar time rulers. Wave ((iii)) occurs on a lower peak of the MACD. Wave ((iv)) is shorter in price than wave ((ii)) but it nicely overlaps wave ((i)).

We said in yesterday's post from the hourly structure this up wave currently counts like a "three", but it could still easily turn into a 'five'. If that occurs, then it would make a good (a) wave, up, and it's correction might be the (b) wave down of ((v)), up.

If you suggest otherwise counts, you need to tell me what you are going to do with that middle (a) wave? As it stands right now, it is very long in time, but still meets the requirements of a sub-wave of ((iii)) because it is shorter in price & time than all of wave ((i)), the previous higher degree wave in the same direction. Further, the wave after it not only overlaps wave ((i)), it overlaps that wave (a). How does your suggested count get around those two issues?

If price makes an (a), (b), (c) up from here then it might be the wave that provides the typical 'over-throw' for the daily wedge - which the price pattern is clearly in. Divergences with the NYSE adv-dec line still remain. The Dow is still diverging from the transports. The VIX is still diverging from the S&P500 with a higher low at this time. And, check out the $cpce - for some reason there is a "whole lot of put-buying going on" at this market high instead of call buying.

This additional chart was added on Sunday morning, after much of the discussion in the comments, below. It is of HYG, the High Yield Bond ETF which is often taken as a measure of "risk on".

HYG - Daily Line Chart - Diagonal
 

The last time I saw such a structure across this many days, weeks and months was back in February of 2015, before calling the May 2015 top. Many web-sites were calling for a very large wave "three" at this point, not five to end a move. Their 'three' didn't materialize then. Will it now? We can not be certain but the pattern is probabilistic.

This chart of Crude Oil was also added on Sunday morning. The two day chart shows another "wave in a wedge."


The first wave actually starts from the craziness of when Crude Oil futures dropped below the $0 mark and traded below the -$35 to -$40 range. Thus, it appears the first wave is the extended wave in the sequence. The second wave retrace is much, much less than a 23% retrace after the oil-shock low. After a lower third wave peak, the EWO got within about 10% of the zero line signifying a fourth wave, and has since made a lower peak. Most recently, price has fallen off in a larger wave than those shown in wave four, and the EWO is red and declining. It is possible that five-waves-up are completed, and this may coincide with the introduction of the micro-Crude Oil futures on the CME.

Again, nothing here is to be taken as trading or investment advice. This is a description of a potential Elliott Wave pattern which has a probability only.

This is the second post this weekend, and it builds on yesterday's notes so you may want to read them now.

Have a good rest of the weekend.

TraderJoe



49 comments:

  1. SPX (wkly/dly) - So if I understand correctly, and the diagonal is correct, then we finally have a "max" level for the end of (W)(X)(Y)?

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/wcq3aiff25m0fif/SPX.PNG/file

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  2. its still staight up grey
    as i have told you since april 2020

    forget about b wave nonsense and top picking

    its a losers game

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  3. Straight up? Hmmm. Great to know. Show us your work for the record. :o)

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    1. https://phil1247wallst.wordpress.com/

      hurry up and look before tj deletes it
      he is not interested in the truth

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    2. straight up above 4015 esm
      phil1247 Uncategorized 1,611 Comments April 5, 2021 Edit"straight up above 4015 esm"

      and many more before that

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    3. https://12345abcdewxyz.wordpress.com/2021/07/23/2021-jul-23/

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    4. Phil only permits ass-kissers on his site but doesn't think twice about taking a dump on other people's work, upstanding dude. He's 60 going on 6

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  4. GDXJ/GDX (mthly) - An open question [if interested]

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/r00nniic3d7v9yk/gdxjgdx.PNG/file

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    1. What's your dxy thoughts? I'm bullish on the dollar at this point. Gold looks shakey at best.

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  5. Could you sketch what you mean if the market does an abc up from here....I can't see why, unless we have our b down first, then you mean abc up from there to finish c or am I not getting it?

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  6. Never mind, I think see it from your second paragraph, if we get a fifth wave up instead of the three so far, that will be officially the a, then we expect b down, then the c wave up to overthrow the wedge.

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    1. Now Im confused. Why would the 5th wave up not end the larger C of (Y) (as shown in initial post here)?
      Thanks

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    2. @GW .. you are both correct. This minute ((v)) should end in (a)-(b)-(c). If the hourly turns into five up, it would likely be just the minuet (a) wave of the minute ((v)) wave - which would end Minor C of Intermediate (Y). Let me know if there are further questions.

      TJ

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  7. A definite aside - DJI (mthly) - observations on RM (momentum) -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/sxccnoo2boyaijf/djiRM.PNG/file

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  8. SPX/VIX (wkly) - Am I looking at this correctly, and if so, is it a warning in some way? Comments welcome!

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/bejtwxo670y1ov4/SPXVIX.PNG/file

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    1. Not sure about the ratio, but the VIX not at ATL while SPX at ATH is a warning. We have seen this before tops in the past but it can go on for a while and we usually need a catalyst to start a correction. Price is king as always. The next 2 months are usually a good time to protect capital.

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    2. Spot-on Grey. The price action in VIX had me doubtful upside targets of DJIA 35K and SPX 4400 would be achieved. The one caveat I see is that a plethora of signals suggesting inherent market weakness continue to be ignored with new highs being notched notwithstanding. Central banks for the moment remain firmly in control and it is abundantly clear that we can glean very little about the timing of a top from EW counts. Marty Armstrong sees 40K as next resistance level for DJIA.

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    3. Tach, you way oversimplified Armstrong's long term target. He expects a panic cycle around August, and February, which treks right along with these counts.

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  9. Good Day, TraderJoe & All,

    An observation on SPX,
    2009 (low) - 2018 (high) = 2279 points
    2020 (low) - 2021 (ATH) = 2234 points -- approaching equality

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    1. If you measure from '09 to Jan '18 peak, then we have just slightly passed equality (whatever that implies, if anything).

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    2. Yes, the key is what message can be derived. Unfortunately, I don't have the vision. But the rise is amazing. Nasdaq100's rise is more amazing.

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    3. Here's some IFs where it could mean a lot -
      1. IF the 3rd wave (of some degree) ended at Jan '18 peak
      2. IF that 3rd wave was not extended (less than 1.62 of w1)
      3. IF wave 4 ended at 2020 low

      Then, wave 5 could be expected to end at one of the measures of w1-w3 x .618, 1.00, 1.618 from w4. So, the equality [could] be an anticipated ending area for a 5th wave under the conditions above I believe. I wouldn't see that as applicable here (imho).

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    4. Thank you. The IFs make sense, and we certainly cannot ignore these possibilities.

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    5. Here's another non-EW way of looking at it that I posted 2 weeks ago when SPX hit 4384.

      mblctaJuly 12, 2021 at 2:56 PM

      The first SPX rally from 666 was just over a double to 1370. That led to a 20% decline.
      The 2nd rally from 1074 was 14 points shy of a double to 2134. That led to a 15% decline.
      The 3rd rally from the 1810 low to the 3393 high was 10% short of a double. That led to a 35% decline.
      The current rally from the 2191 low just hit a double

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    6. There is one EW pattern that fully explains the concomitant new highs and cluster of bearish signals, and that of course is an expanded flat. It of course requires the recent wave down be seen as a three.

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  10. Generally, when I start to observe a lot of "in-fighting/trolling" we are near an inflection point. Thanks for the hard work TJ.

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  11. Lumber/Gold (mthly) - observations

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/jk27vywy83t38vu/LumberGoldm.PNG/file

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  12. A new chart and some commentary has been added to this post on Sunday morning after much of the commentary above.

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  13. Yet a third chart and some commentary was added to this post on Sunday morning.

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  14. HYG/TLT - (wkly) Another view of Risk no Risk off -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/zw7uwm6buqmcnoa/hygtlt.PNG/file

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  15. One More - Sector Rotation update - (still risk off)

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/t7vcsfp69f27615/Sectorrotate.PNG/file

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  16. https://www.tradingview.com/x/weGKBL6f/ S@P Long term chart
    https://www.tradingview.com/x/hnLQHK8e/ Dow long term chart

    One interesting observation given the importance Elliott wavers attach to overlaps. The Dow drop in 2020 overlaps with the 2007 high while in the S&P no overlap occurred. No idea what it means but we are at a milestone level.

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  17. https://www.tradingview.com/x/7We07wxe/

    TQQQ is hitting resistance from below and has fallen under the 30 min 200 HMA. The only thing not cooperating at the moment is a divergence on the RSI. This looks like a 5th wave to me with very little left to run

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  18. Good morning all.. there is a higher ES high.
    TJ

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    1. ..here's a chart.

      https://invst.ly/vjjqt

      TJ

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    2. ..just fyi. Investing.com is about 3 pts behind this morning in real time. TJ.

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    3. are there any b wave rules that will help define the next move, like too far for b down or minimum requirements?

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    4. rprit .. unfortunately (b) could be 'any three' including a zigzag or multiple zigzags, a flat, a combination or even a triangle. It is a suggestion only that 38% is a minimum - at least for some of the waves - like the first wave of a triangle - and 78% would be 'pushing it'.

      TJ

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    5. Thanks TJ, honestly, your post about all the things to watch for is excellent, now I have to go read and figure out where each of those statements falls in line with the wave we are watching. Thank you for all you do, I have learned so much.

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    6. ..very welcome, rprit, and thanks for saying. TJ

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  19. ES 5-min: Very short term, here are somethings to watch for. A) so far this wave (1)extension count works to the high, as wave (5) is not longer than (3);
    B) Watch to see if a retrace holds the high and makes a new low; C) Watch if the down wave becomes lower than 4,403 as that would make the down wave longer than (4) in length. D) Watch for overlap of 4,396.50 which has not happened yet. The computers are really playing this "to the tick"; and E) watch to see if channel is broken lower, back-tested and then produces a failure wave lower.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/W6rji0OM/

    TJ

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  20. Dow futures & cash - 1 day - just fyi: well, what do you know; the Dow and its futures have broken their all-time-high, and now 'truly' diverge from the transports.

    TJ

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  21. ES 5-min; I'm thinking the marginal higher high meant we might have had an ugly triangle in the middle to hit the lower channel line and get the EWO back to the zero line.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/2neoeiYn/

    Still no decisive break of lower channel line or successful back test.
    TJ

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    1. ..it also made wave ((iv)) longer in time than wave ((ii)) - which is 'often' the case. TJ.

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