IFF we are in a bear market, I found a wave sequence this morning that might be its analogue. Granted this is on a much shorter time scale, ES 5-min, it shows that the wave sequence is possible! When I saw the sequence this morning my jaw dropped a bit.
ES Futures - 5 min - Mini Bear Market |
Starting out down to wave ((1)), the wave sequence looks like absolutely nothing. You & I might otherwise be thinking just another corrective sequence. Then, there is the sharp rebound to just avoid going over the high. Then, another still innocuous corrective sequence lower as wave ((3)). Then, a huge pop back up to almost take out the high of ((2)) as wave ((4)). Why wasn't the high exceeded?? Reasonable people want to know. Then there is a drop, then a clear b wave triangle, and then a much, much larger drop. And, it's a much larger drop than the triangle suggests by the usual triangle targets. All throughout waves ((1)) to ((4)) there is huge uncertainty. And then, it lets go. Notice I caught this at the time. With the waves you see.
To demonstrate to you that this really is indeed a diagonal, I am going to add the follow-on sequences in the chart below.
ES Futures - 5 min - Follow-Up Waves |
Notice, the diagonal ends where I initially suggested, and then a massive, corrective flat follows, labeled as ((A))-((B))-((C)) to b. And this is followed by a c wave lower, proving out that the diagonal was a leading diagonal.
My point is two-fold: 1) there is some force in the market currently restraining downward impulses from initially forming. I'm not quite sure what it is, but I have a feeling it has a lot to do with people 'trying to get their money back' from losses. Or perhaps it is related to automatic investment schemes that just deploy money regardless of what the market is doing. Again, I'm not sure. So, there remains a huge bid under the market which causes diagonals. And, 2) with the daily three-waves down in the Dow shown yesterday, do you know where those would go? They would be that little number ((1)) up there. That's right, the majority won't believe a bear market until the breakdown of ((3)).
Will this happen? I absolutely do not know. Can it happen? Seems like it is possible. But again, diagonals are low probability patterns that must prove themselves in every detail. IFF we are in a bear market, we may only be in the very beginning stages. Can we go over the high again? Absolutely. Right now I assess pretty even odds 47-53 bull market-bear market. There is very little edge except counting the waves and trying to stay with the local trends.
Have an excellent start to the evening.
TraderJoe
this was posted 5/26
ReplyDeleteis this what you are talkin about? i called it the max pain expanding diagonal.
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No. Add more pain.. your first three waves would only be (1) .. you need more waves and more retraces.
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holy sh*t ET you craazzzyy thanks
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ReplyDeleteI think 3 of 5 after triangle on the daily. Fed must be thinking an immediate raise is needed.r
DeleteRBOB (.025x3) - TTBOs abound -
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ES - parallels
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ES 5-min: The 0 - ii trend line has broken. The wave won't be in wedge (yet). There are 'three-waves-up' with a clear running second wave - which is an extremely shallow retrace.
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The alt count besides xi, ii, iii can easily be red a,b,c of perhaps a diagonal for a fifth wave. Depends on employment report tomorrow morning. Have a good evening.
TJ
P.S. the prior ES daily high was 4,202.25, and that level could easily be broken from here if they chose to do it in the overnight. TJ.
Delete..the reason red a,b,c is the alt is that the 'c' wave should get over the prior high to start a diagonal. It hasn't yet. TJ.
DeleteThere has been one overlap on the jobs report. Either go back to the ((y)) wave and make a i, ii up out of it or look for a triangle or a diagonal. Tricky stuff. Patience.
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ES 2-Hr: all up waves have been overlapped downward. If bullish you might look to a 62 - 78% retrace. Otherwise, very dicey. Noteworthy is that 'cash' did make the new high above the prior wave three. Futures did not.
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C wave as the alternative yesterday seems correct. Did not feel like a 5 wave.
ReplyDeleteCould be.. but see below.
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Unless the market can recycle higher, this completion count can be considered. For reasons of wave 'lengths' in cash, it's either this or a diagonal right now.
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TJ
Is it possible a complex iv is in progress?
DeleteSPY 15-min: for the diagonal count (being Friday/Monday), use red a,b,c as shown. But then the market should try for 62% or deeper. It did not do that yet.
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Maybe the fractals can help with decision-making.
TJ
ES - extended 5th? (could reach the parallel from 3rd wave)
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SPY (2x3) - Current
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Now 3 box rev (to 410). A couple poss paths -
Delete1. Move to 406 triggers DBBO, or
2. A reversal back up from here to 418 triggers TTBO.
SPY 15-min: just fyi - has broken the down (red) fractal back and is now beyond 62% retrace.
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TJ
ES (5x3) A bullish view -
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ES (90m) Positive HD in the making?
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SPY 5-min: it's getting ridiculous, but what is the only structure I can measure from the high? You guessed it. A diagonal.
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TJ
dont kinow how ending diagonal fits into a count...
Deleteright. i didn't say 'ending'. I just said diagonal. TJ
DeleteIs it possible that SPY is still in 4th (higher high was perhaps a "b" of exp flat)?
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yes, thats what i was inferring ... take notice
Delete'supposing' the contracting diagonal, lower, is an 'a'. (It could be more, but let's play 'devil's advocate'). Then if there is a 'c' wave lower after that, then 'maybe'..just maybe there is a chance for an 'expanding diagonal' count to the high from the 6/2 low?
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see below @ 2:57 pm.
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Combined sentiment (stocks/bonds) Courtesy of SentimenTrader (free email) -
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SPY 30-min: back-test failure on prior channel. Red "alt count" in more & more risk.
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TJ
..also 'clean' five wave count down from back-test failure.
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ES (2x3) - How a 4th might look
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Correction - SPY not ES
DeletePrice could go as low as 402 (50% retrace), then reverse to trigger DTBO, and still leave a bear trap btm.
DeleteIFF, price can make a 'C' wave down, and hold the prior wave red (ii) low, then an 'expanding diagonal' is possible as a high. Again, this is an 'alternate' count. It must form properly.
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TJ
So far, there are two technical 'problems' today. 1) the RSI has not even come close to an oversold level, and 2) this is also demonstrated by a NYSE TICK which, so far, has refused to leave the common range of +1000 to -1000. Tick chart below.
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TJ
Here's another plausible count if they can overlap into the close.
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TJ
A new post is started for the next day.
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