Saturday, January 30, 2021

NYAD v McOsc

I first became aware of the McClellan Oscillator on the New York Stock Exchange many years ago when Sherm McCleallan was presenting it himself on the FNN channel (Financial News Network). I followed it for a very long time, and tried to see if it could assist in predicting market turns. For those who are interested the McClellan Oscillator (or $NYMO on Stockcharts.com) is essentially a momentum oscillator on the New York Stock Exchange advance-decline line. It's calculation can be found at this LINK. Here is the recent chart of the daily $NYMO.

$NYMO - Daily - Divergences

Essentially, this indicator is "like" a MACD of the advance-decline line (or $NYAD). The issue is how well does it work? Well, we know as recently as this week stocks as measured by the ES futures made an all-time high. Yet, the $NYMO shows a series of declining peaks. Now let's look at the $NYAD raw data in cumulative format.

$NYAD - Daily - Curling Over

Last week, we showed the $NYAD and said that its most recent up moves were very, very hesitant and it showed signs it might curl over. As the solid line above shows, the raw $NYAD has indeed curled over in its largest down move since November.

At this point, a simple visual comparison shows what might be called a "negative bias" in the McClellan Oscillator. In other words, the Oscillator points lower in several spots when the raw data recovers and makes a new high - and, in this case, the market index along with it. It is really necessary to recognize this aspect of this tool used by many to help with market timing. Yes, it might help one if it is used as a 'divergence' indicator.

But one should also recognize for how long it can be incorrect. The most significant divergence (June to December) was fully two months early in its timing. While this may be important information, one must certainly be judicious in its eventual application.

If you are not familiar with this technical tool, it has a companion indicator called the Summation Index, shown below. What it does is sum the daily $NYMO values over time. If the $NYMO is negative at the time, it adds the negative number, meaning values below zero are definitely possible.

NYSE Summation Index ($NYSI) - Daily - Range

This index has a distinct personality of traveling between +1,200 and -1,200 which also means there are numerous times when it will "return to zero". Sometimes, not always, the return to zero is a relatively quick trip representing a downward impulse-like move in the markets. Other times, the index takes a much more meandering trip to the zero line. This was the case in the Intermediate (B) wave to the 2020 high, and lower low in the Intermediate (C) wave down in March.

Yes, this index can be used as a divergence indicator as well - seemingly better at tops. Some of the bottoms are "spike" bottoms with a V recovery, so caution is needed in looking for divergence at the lows. Not even the 2009 bottom shows divergence at the lows. However, there is an excellent example of divergence at the lows in the Summation Index at the 2002 - 2003 lows. But, rather than 'spoon-feed' readers of this blog, I'll let the interested reader plot this last example using Stockcharts.com - which is free - to find this example and make sure they are familiar with these helpful tools.

Ultimately, one needs to be cautious using most market indicators - including this one - in surveying for market turns. While such indicators may be screaming that a turn is due, sometimes is takes a very long time to see that turn materialize.

For a wave-counting site, if we can not find a count completion that works simply and naturally while the indicators are in warning mode, we generally assume that the indicator is a little pre-mature: giving a good warning, but maybe there is more to go.

We hope this reality review of the way things have actually worked versus the way they are supposed to work has been helpful. Have an excellent start to the weekend. And, a brief reminder, this was the second post this weekend if you have not seen the first one.

TraderJoe

19 comments:

  1. Tj
    If I may add, As per Mr Sherman in his book, "patterns for profit" . The pattern of Nymo is more important than its absolute value.And divergence should work in reverse as well.

    So Tom MCclellan, his son had an article on Thursday,Saying that Mco value of -230 at this Juncture while market has only lost 2-3% is a strong indication that Market will have a violent move in the other direction.

    Anyway since, we count waves here. Do you agree that the decline so far is not impulsive?
    Or its a exp diagnol down as you suggested on Thu?
    I am having a hard time counting the move from Thursday aftrenoon till Friday close as an impulse. It could be a abc 3rd wave down of an Exp Diagonal.
    Do you agree?

    Thanks in advance.

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    1. The value of -230 is the non-adjusted value; the Stockcharts value is "ratio adjusted".

      I'll say more about the hourly count later. I know what my thoughts are but sometimes I like to see if any of you who get 'degree labeling' can try your hand first.

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    2. Thanks for the reply TJ. Cash and future counts are entirely different this time.

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    3. ..see the next day's post which is now up.

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  2. SPX/Silver (wkly ratio) [underlying idea from KimbleCharting]- if interested

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3arft.png

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  3. Another Stockcharts.com chart that will display early weakness and sharp bottom reversals. I believe this demonstrates the %number of SPX stocks on P&F daily buy signal. Obvious divergences over last 3 months.

    https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$BPSPX

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  4. Any view on gme..did it just complete 1 and now 3 to come...or is the game over

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    1. I don't think Elliot wave was designed for something like gme personally.

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  5. TJ and all:
    Would like to get input into a possible count (monthly) on this key ratio [SPX/TLT]

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3arrW.png

    Thanks!

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    1. ?? Interest rates have basically been held steady ~1% or 2% depending on the index for years. Whenever you divide something by largely a constant, it is largely just the original thing. So, this ratio is "essentially" (not identically) the same as just SPX. Therefore, it counts almost identically to SPX.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/rZ9qPzHH/

      Other than that, I think there is a small triangle in (4) which prevents any hint at overlap. Even without the triangle, the low of (4) is the exact same as the high of (1), and might not be considered overlap. The EWP is 'mum' on whether 'exact same level' is an overlap or not.

      TJ

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    2. Thanks!! That makes sense of my channel up from '09. So, once ((B)) is complete, this would seem to suggest a retest of ((A)) (or more), with the ratio dropping roughly in half. In turn, it appears one would be ahead to hold TLT outright (vs SPX), or even better, TLT long and equal amount SPX inverse fund if I'm thinking correctly.

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    3. I don't provide trading or investment advice. The logical flaw in your thinking is if ((B)) has more to go higher - which it might.

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    4. I did mention that "once ((B)) is complete". I wasnt suggesting trading advice either, just thinking through how to utilize the ratio.
      Thanks for the help on this. :o)

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    5. Addendum: If you were referring to ((B)) exceeding 1.382 (up to 1.618), then indeed it could become less likely (if at all) that ((B)) would be fully retraced by ((C)). Currently, we have a ways to go before that would apply.
      Thanks again.

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  6. A wkly update on the "FAANG gang" (if interested) -

    https://funkyimg.com/i/3arHG.png

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  7. There is a new post started for the next day.

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  8. Some fib levels I’ll be watching for possible reversal areas. 3624 - 3548 - 3472 cash

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