In his books, Ralph Nelson Elliott essentially laid out a theory of "parallel" market movements. He gave explicit instructions for how to draw them: what tools to use to construct them, which points to connect as parallel & when, and whether to use log format or arithmetic format if inflation was involved. As you can see from the first chart of the catalog, a parallel has not fully formed yet.
DJIA Cash Index - Yearly - Larger Parallel |
This shows the upward bias of the market following the depression, and it is the only way that the Cycle wave corrections are shorter-in-time than the next larger degree correction in the same direction. For example, Cycle IV is a full nine-years in length from 2000 to 2009. So, the correction of the larger SuperCycle [II] must be longer in time to meet degree definitions. I have written about this at length before and I have written Elliott Wave International about it to no avail. So now, the chart suggests we are in the SuperCycle [III]'d wave: the wonder-to-behold, the extended third wave, and, although we are still above the EMA-34, this wave is diverging on the PPO Oscillator, the equivalent of the MACD for very long-term charts.
The parallel is rising. It is currently at a level above the high of SuperCycle [I], and therefore one might expect that if prices head lower, they will not overlap wave [I]. Further, there has been no wave yet to come back and test the fourth wave of one prior degree. IF SuperCycle wave [IV] forms, then it might come back to the parallel to test the level of Cycle wave IV, one degree lower.
The next chart in the catalog is the quarterly wave set from 2000, as below. It shows the construction of Cycle wave IV as a Flat wave, and the subsequent Cycle wave V in five waves, with alternation.
Here you can see also the five primary waves from the 2009 low. And that each primary wave lies on an opposite side of the EMA-34 for form & balance. Note, too, the third wave is the extended wave in the sequence. There is also some recent divergence on the PPO. This wave is also in a parallel, but one that expanded to capture the 2009 low and the 2020 low. It was a smaller parallel before the extent of Primary ④ was known.
DJIA Cash - Monthly - Primary ⑤ |
DJIA Cash Index - 2 Wk - Intermediate (5) |
We thought you'd be interested to see a logical progression of the wave degrees from SuperCycle to Minute degree. Whether the market tops here or not is up to the market. The charts suggest it has a higher likelihood than ever. IF it tops, it might occur in such a short amount of time that the FED is caught off-guard, and rate decreases would be next-to-useless given the trillions of dollars in capital lost merely due to market price declines and the reversal of leverage in the system.
Regardless, the attempt to count the waves by five, with alternation, will continue until the market makes its message clearer.
Have an excellent rest of the weekend, and holiday week if you are celebrating.
TraderJoe
Thanks so much for this post.
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DeleteThis is OMG post. Thanks.
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DeleteI wish to echo that assessment. Will share with all the usual disbelievers.
DeleteThx. TJ.
DeleteMagnificent "Bird's Eye" view. Awesome charts. Thx. I think you are right on the money wrt leverage. Few people grasp what a frightful Achilles's Heel this is in the system.
ReplyDeleteExcellent work as usual … so grateful for you sharing and your expertise over the years
ReplyDeleteThanks & welcome. TJ.
DeleteThanks for using Cash for the charts. Also, in the weekly chart, circle iv is larger than 4.
ReplyDeleteI've put the 4 in the circle iv position and called it a running wave 4. which eliminates that atypical megaphone.
Food for thought: true minute-iv (circle-iv) is longer than 4. But it is not longer than 2, a same degree wave as 4 in the same direction. Measurement in link.
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As far as I can tell, the "running wave" 4 at your selected location would create two issues. 1) as far as I can tell the wave is too complex. It's not a 3-3-5. It's a 3-3-3, and while not impossible, what's the point of the expanded flat construction if not to make a new lower low below the prior wave? Also, a "running wave" at an all-time market high might be suspicious. It would be an omen of "great strength" amid all the divergences we see - whereas the diagonal is a warning of something different. Still your count does not break the 'rules'. TJ.
Thanks for the feedback TJ. Actually I see the structure as a 3-3-3-3-3 running expanding triangle. I should have been more specific. Placing the 4 at the August 5th low resulted in a 17% pop in the Dow in a nice 5 wave move which still can be counted as a diagonal as shown in a previous post of yours.
DeleteThe August 5th low also makes for a better match to your PPO, especially on the 2-week chart. In any case most of what I've mentioned is cosmetic, as both counts are reaching the same conclusion now.
@Roy .. just fyi - Elliott never saw running expanding triangles. They are not included in the EW 'rules or guidelines'. The reason is, that if you posit them, you can make up literally any wave count (why isn't it, not 1,2,i,ii, for example)? No, an expanding triangle 'must' have a lower 'e' wave low. Otherwise, the structure is simply the expanding diagonal shown. TJ.
Delete@TJ...it's not 1,2,i,ii because ii would be a degree violation. At this point I'm tapping out of the topic.
DeleteAmazing work as always, TJ. Thank you
ReplyDeleteES 1-Hr: broke another trend line (dashed), or sometimes called a "speed line", and an hourly down (red) fractal this morning. Seems to be losing momentum with the MACD currently below the zero line.
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It can always swing around to make a Flat correction, and/or complete a H&S lower at any time.
TJ
As I was charting, prior 'b' wave low was undercut. Again, watch out for the "falling knife" effect.
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Any chance of a triangle in play since mid october
ReplyDeleteOr diagonal from early November?
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Deletemay also just be in c of 2 of the above diagonal.
I think this is what your triangle idea would be?
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Either we completed E of triangle this morning or we are in b of C (b could be small triangle). Only time will tell..
DeleteWhile not 'impossible' due to some sloppiness in where the highs and lows are, from a degree labeling viewpoint in the futures the 'b' wave of the triangle would be 'longer in time' than the largest 3 I can justify. I responded to marc on this previously. Again, not impossible - just greatly reduced odds as far as the futures measurements provide.
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RNE didn't have a computer or AI. Is there room in 2.0 to work in volume analysis? I suspect its a missing link, in the confirmations chapter.
ReplyDeleteES 'possible' sub-wave construction unfolding. This current down wave is shorter in price and shorter in time than the previous down wave.
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We don't 'know' what the down wave result is. Is it five of 'c'? Five of 'a'? Five of i? I'm pretty sure - and have shown - the up wave counts as 'three'. We don't know the current down wave is over, or whether a Flat retrace has started. All we know is that is is shorter in price & shorter in time. So, it can 'qualify' for sub-wave construction. But we need to be a little patient because Elliott Wave counting can not reduce all risk of market participation. Otherwise, the market would have broken because you could game it.
TJ
Thanks for an excellent analysis! That wave 5 that started in 2020 has sure been longer than anyone estimated!
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DeleteES 1-hr: the interior down (red) fractal has broken, but not the exterior one, yet. And another tentative speed line can be drawn showing momentum likely decreasing.
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The most recent hourly up (green) fractals are shown too.
TJ
ES 1-hr: external fractal low now broken as well.
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TJ
A count would really help..seems like flat to downside
DeleteAll we have is a lower high, on the daily chart after the high on 17 Dec. So, technically there is no count or too many of them to be useful at the moment.
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As I said in the write-up above, you can't get blood from a stone. Elliott Wave 'cannot' entirely de-risk trading. And yes, you are correct, that a Flat 'could be' forming on hourly/half-hourly timeframes. But other things could form from here too. We need to have lower daily lows in addition to the lower daily highs to likely confirm any downturn, even a simple a,b,c from the high for any technician that knows his stuff. This is where a person 'simply' has to be patient, and tread lightly - if at all.
TJ
Thanks
DeleteHappy New Year all!
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Happy New Year to you and all! TJ
DeleteMarginal new SPX low.
ReplyDeleteThank you TJ for another year of great insights, learning, and direction. I have a feeling that this last post of the year might be one we refer to for many years to come. You've laid out the 100 year count perfectly with double clicks into subsequent lower degrees waves that support and build on each other. This could be your post that "rings the bell" for a SuperCycle III
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year and looking forward to 2025
Also a Thank-You and Happy New Year to the members who frequently contribute and post high quality content. You know who you are!
..and thanks for contributing!
DeleteTJ
yes thanks for another great year
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DeleteA new post is started for the next day, and the next year.
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