Saturday, October 21, 2023

Will it Activate?

Below is the 2-Day chart of the NQ 100 futures, and our consistent Elliott Wave Count since the low. To recap briefly, there is a Leading Expanding Diagonal as an A/1 wave up off the of the low, followed by a B/2 wave down and followed by a C/3 wave to the 1.618 extension. The up-wave channels decently, and IF the count is A,B,C up then there is good alternation in a corrective wave with a leading diagonal being followed by an impulse wave. Of course, if the count is 1,2,3 (by the Principle of Equivalence) then wave 3 is the required impulse structure. This is one of the best illustrations of The Principle of Equivalence you will see because all requirements for both structures are exactly in place. Note that the EWO on this time-frame is still within possible fourth wave territory.


Now, IF the NQ is headed downward, it looks like it would be doing so as an expanding diagonal - at least at the beginning. So far, the structure has (iii) > (i), (iv) > (ii) and (iv) overlaps wave (i) without traveling beyond the end of wave (ii). Now, in order to activate a true diagonal, then wave (v) 'must', by the rules, become longer than wave (iii). So let's look more closely at the daily chart.


The daily chart shows the activation level for a true diagonal is below 14,412.00 This would also likely fill gap 1. Then, it is also common for a fifth wave in a diagonal to extend to 1.618 x (iii). If this happens it would likely take wave (v) to around the 13,604 level or lower. Then there would be the potential to also fill gap 2

Likely, if this happens, more & more market participants will begin to assess that the market's direction is lower. The ES would be trading below its 200-day SMA, and the Russell 2000 would likely break the weekly low. Of course, there could be substantial retraces anywhere along the way. 

There are two key items to keep in mind. First, the diagonal could convert to an impulse under the right circumstances. We showed in the comments for a prior post how the Dow converted a well-formed contracting leading diagonal into an impulse wave simply by adding & adding multiple waves to the structure. Second, until there is overlap with wave A/1, up - by The Principle of Equivalence - the diagonal can also be considered as its native three zigzags (w), (x), (y), (x), (z) and still be a fourth wave, 4, in this case. Because of the position of the other indexes, it seems this wave 4 would have lower odds, maybe 30-70 against forming wave 4 at this point. But we count every index separately. 

So why is the market doing this? It's all sentiment. The public and the hedge funds are desperate that the magnificent-7 stocks are the darlings and will carry the markets to new highs. So, the move off the high is a grinding one rather than an immediate impulse because so many opinions have to be changed if the market is to move lower. Make no mistake, a wave 4 in the NQ could still turn out to be a correct view, but right now it is just that increasing odds are against it.

Have an excellent start to the weekend,

TraderJoe

16 comments:

  1. Thanks TJ. Have a Blessed Weekend.

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  2. Gary's reference to the 1929 price action as a possible analogue is quite interesting. We may have another nearer dated in time, 1987. The charts for then and this year eerily similar. Interesting that we also had a Hindenburg Omen on September 14 1987, and on September 12 this year. "History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often " Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain

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    1. Here's a pattern that looks very similar to our current chart of the S&P. It was a C Wave correction after an ATH. After the C wave correction was over we went on to ATH's in 9 months. This would be a longterm bullish scenario. I guess 1987 was just a correction and then went on to ATH's also. I'm not saying that I'm bullish. I'm in the neutral camp until the market shows me more.
      https://www.tradingview.com/chart/SPX/bpNpzHvH-2015-Pattern-looks-very-familiar/
      https://www.tradingview.com/chart/SPX/b5ULGypQ-Similar-Pattern-to-a-2015-Correction/

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    2. Yes, I mentioned a few weeks ago that both 1929 and 1987 fit the Puetz criteria, autumnal crashes in the midst of two eclipses. Here's the charts I've been using to watch for similar price action:

      https://ibb.co/CPHC2SR

      If the 1929 rhyming continues, we'll see four days of dips and weaker, rallies, then Friday 27th - Tuesday 31st will be the crash days. 1987 rhyming would likely see next Friday and the following Monday only as crash days.

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  3. SPY hasn't over lap February highs yet. Weekly volume has broken above 50 Week ma, looking for strong volume jump. Vix should also rise as well ADX if we are breaking dramatically lower.
    Yield curve is back near 0 (still below) could be rate increases are nearing an end.
    One of the first signs up wave is over is over lap February highs.

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  4. Fwiw 4180 is both the 100 and 50 weekly sma and the daily bb is at 4212. We are already pushing against the lower weekly bb.

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  5. I can see "possible" nested 1,2 waves at multiple degrees of trend in some indices.. The sanguine blather from some folk, including Jeremy Siegel, may be under-estimating the fragility of equities!

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  6. NQZ2023 1-Day : just the front-month contract has now qualified for the expanding diagonal by trading below 14,533. See chart below. I suspect it will go further, and the roll-over contract will as well (but needs to go below 14,412 as above).

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/D0ZCsy7z/

    As well, the prior daily lows have been undercut. Rallies can occur at any time.

    TJ

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  7. TJ Would this count work?

    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/SPX/7JnkffQQ-Is-Wave-4-Complete/

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    1. Like so!

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/YEBE7uKd/

      TJ

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    2. I'd like to see overlap at 4,250 to better confirm, none-the-less. TJ.

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    3. That's weird because SPX got to 4255.84.

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    4. Apologies: I meant in the futures which are still at 4,260. Equivalent of 421.50 high in the SPY. TJ.

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  8. ES now has overlap on 4,250. Odds of downside still improving. TJ.

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