Monday, October 2, 2023

And For Cycle V - By Degree Labeling

So, it seemed the best thing to do now was to revisit Cycle V five and see if anything changes. I spent hours again going over the count. I tried every possibility of extensions I could (x3, x5, x1). I further specifically tried getting the all-time-high to be part of Cycle V. I could not get it to work as the wave is too long compared to other waves. The good news is that the overall interpretation has not changed - at least using the log scale on a monthly chart over the 13-year period. It turned out that the only extension I could get to work was the x1, the first-wave extension. Here is the chart.

DJI Cash Index - Monthly Log Scale - Cycle V Count and Following

The only correction I had to make was to wave x. Unless interpreted this way, the Intermediate degree waves within Primary  are too long in price and time. I tried the expanding triangle count again in 2020. That did not work either. Note specifically that Primary  is less than a 38.2% retrace - as shown by the Fibonacci ruler - which, as you know, goes along with the x count. The Fibonacci rulers for waves and  are shown on the left of the chart.

So, we are where we are. Many people are looking for price to 'go-over-the-top' again. The chart shows "we've already been over the top". The Dow is within limits for an expanded flat  wave, after the SuperCycle [III] top. 

If there are three-waves down from the  wave top, then a diagonal wave downward may be in progress. It might turn out to be either a contracting or an expanding diagonal. If the mess of a structure from the high is a 'five' then price might impulse lower. If the RSI makes a lower local low, then it may confirm a lower high in August 2023.

Stay tuned, and have a good start to your evening,

P.S. This post follows on directly from yesterday's historical review. If you have not seen that post yet, you may wish to read that one, as well.

TraderJoe


27 comments:

  1. Meta about to impulse lower? https://www.tradingview.com/x/1n09zoA2/

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    1. Be careful it doesn't poke up for another high. The 4-hr chart only says 'x' wave lower, not 'i'.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/OGdaCHEg/

      TJ

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  2. There is now a lower daily low with the daily slow stochastic still embedded. It could be the (b) wave of a flat or a running triangle. Let's see if we get a true fourth wave up and fifth wave down.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/pNeeVyHW/

    IF the 'running triangle' should form, it would be a more bearish omen for the future. IF the flat forms it is more neutral as to later direction.

    TJ

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    1. TJ - The larger degree structure (wave 1/A and 2/B from July 27 - Sept 1) has a second wave that is about 11 days days long. Does the Wave 4 need to finish in less than 11 days in your lower degree count from Sept 1st onwards for it to remain valid?

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    2. No; wave 4 and 2 are of the same degree. They can have any reasonably close relationship to each other. It's 'only' when you are comparing a smaller sub-wave to what you are claiming is a 'larger' degree wave that the sub-wave can't be larger than the larger degree wave. TJ.

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  3. ES popped back in that channel from the ATH and then tried to hold multiple times and it failed. It may back test and say goodbye.

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    1. That's the way to look at - as completely equivalent waves until more is known. There isn't anything really compelling about that potential triangle (yet), and it may break down into a nested (I), (ii), I,ii count. TJ.

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  5. Been following you for some time and appreciate the time and efforts you put into your posts. I am surprised I have not seen you make a post on this backtest (unless I missed it) as you are big on piercing and then backtesting. this chart shows upchannel in green from 2174 low (ES) and we have a perfect backtest as least close enough I believe. https://tos.mx/4tg05aF

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    1. Thanks for contributing. I have posted other channel back-tests on weekly and daily time-frames. I like your's too. Good work. TJ.

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  6. ES 30-min: here is the down count to what may be the (b) wave at 1.236 for an expanded flat or running triangle. The count results in a simple c = a zigzag. Other counts have degree violations in them.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/tKhXLr2Y/

    TJ

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  7. Remarkable how NDX stubbornly remains above its September low!

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  8. /ZB got a new low confirming the expanding ending diagonal on the monthly.

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  9. TJ, do you think we finish wave 4?

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  10. I got 1st wave extended impilse wave in the overnight

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  11. With the overnight low as b, thinking we had flat to back test ATH channel.

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  12. SPY is finding support at the lower channel line from the lows in Oct 2022

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  13. TJ, can you give us the long term of S&P and NDX?

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    1. If you search his past posts you can see he has given us these already. You should also try doing it yourself.

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  14. Exp diagonal off the lows on the 5 min SPY chart

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  15. DIA looking like double combo...

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  16. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ

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