Saturday, July 16, 2022

Preparation of a Good Alternate

U.S. equity prices - using the daily chart of the ES futures - look weird and feel somewhat similar. When you look at the chart below, you might see why. Although nothing in the main count, lower, has invalidated yet, it seemed helpful to at least look for an alternate. Now when an alternate is developed, we don't just pick any labels we feel - like a large W-X-Y with internal (w)-(x)-(y) structure as some sites are showing. No, such a structure would be bizarre in Elliott Wave, because it is too complex and may not even follow the rules for wave construction.

Rather, we try to use measurements and objective criteria. You'll see how we have done that below. Again, the following chart is an alternate at this time because nothing in the larger three-of-three count lower has invalidated yet. But it could.

ES Futures - Daily - Possible Alternate

In this alternate, we base it on 1) the number of daily candles, now over 120 since the all-time-high, 2) the Elliott Wave Oscillator (EWO) and its divergences, and 3) the measurement of 3 = 1.618 x 1. Just for information, the number of daily candles is now 132 to be specific, and well in the range of 120 - 160 recommended for using The Eight-Fold-Path Method for Counting an Impulse.

To explain more thoroughly, we note that there is a location for wave 1, that provides a 1.618 measurement for wave 3. So, we can back this wave location up to the January low rather than the February low. What this does is serve to make wave Minor 2 more complicated in structure and longer in time than its corresponding wave Minor 1. Otherwise, if the February low is the low of wave 1, then wave 2 is shorter in time - an anomaly I have been looking sideways at since the decline began.

Now if we do that, we see that the lowest low for the Elliott Wave Oscillator is on wave (iii) of 3, as per The Eight Fold Method for Counting an Impulse. Then, wave (v) of 3 occurs on the divergence. As such it may explain the EWO heading towards the zero line for a wave 4.

This alternate suggests that wave Minor 4 could be a triangle OR a simpler zigzag, and one that breaks the current line of declining tops.

The key issue is that we don't know yet. No one does. Prices could gap down Sunday night & keep going Monday to better establish a larger third wave. But, what if they don't? The very reason that a good alternate is developed is to keep the trader unruffled and fully prepared in the face of a different market movement than currently expected.

But, again, not any alternate will do. One simply cannot just paste letters and numbers anywhere on a chart and expect success. As we have done above, it should be based on the significant measurements of price length, time and momentum that best agrees with the written Elliott Wave Rules and Guidelines (and perhaps with The Eight Fold Path Method if an impulse is to develop). 

And so, if the upper downtrend line is broken, then it will suggest that prices may better form a parallel trend channel. I don't know if others may have reached this conclusion or not. I don't follow the work of other wave analysts or services at this time. And this study was independently arrived at last night after blog reader and contributor marc asked, "and what happens if the down trend line does break?"

In this alternate, a larger wave 4 must still adhere to the rule of not allowing overlap with wave 1. If all of this should occur, then the alternate would take the place of the main count.

Have an excellent start to the weekend.

TraderJoe

43 comments:

  1. Thanks! The following might fit.
    SPX (50x1) - 100 begets another 150-200?

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/mbhc24sa5cjd66f/1boxSPX.PNG/file

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    1. (Unfortunately, Tradingview's PnF function does not properly construct 1 box reversal charts currently).

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    2. Welcome. I can more readily see these local horizontals as fitting because they appear more in line with 'the current market context'. TJ.

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  2. We have 3 waves down in alternate from ath. It's 4th wave conundrum. Alternate means anything can happen as far as new highs, we can be making expanded flat working on b wave up. Is your alternate in 4th wave conundrum, thus not giving us much help.in determining the near term, while primary says we are going down? It doesn't seem accurate to think the alternate is bearish.

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    1. Keep it simple and see if a 38% or 50% retracement of new wave 3 holds or not. That's again if we don't break immediately lower. Since 2 is a flat, 4 should be a zigzag or triangle. TJ.

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  3. JNK & XLY/XLP - hints of potential risk on?

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/zriv0plrnwpcqr5/Hints.PNG/file

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  4. NQ (dly) - Observations

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/7ycbhk9ra3untus/NQdly.PNG/file

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  5. Thanks to all that posted comments this morning. I've learned a lot.

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  6. NYSE Up/Down Vol (wkly) - a different perspective

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/ot78gvyievj1trf/NYSEUDvol.PNG/file

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    1. I don't quite see the point of this post unless you want to explain further. Notice 1) recent spikes have been 'lower' than prior high spikes, 2) some up spikes preceded market falls, 3) what is the 'statistical evidence' behind what you are trying to say? TJ.

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    2. Just observing what occurred at prior points of similar level. No statistical evidence. Viewer can pursue if desired.

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    3. But you haven't even stated what 'you' think of the very own chart you posted. Therefore, seems like a pointless exercise to me. TJ.

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  7. All comments are again on 'moderation', meaning they require approval, and there may be a short delay (up to overnight) before they are posted, if approved. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. TJ.

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    1. Please note mbctla is banned from posting here. He refused to produce his Elliott Wave count after direct request from marc and I. Therefore, he has no count and is not truly interested in this topic. He refused to admit 'anything' was good about the count shown (not even a "gee, that 1.618 is compelling, but I have another idea" .. nothing! nada!). Therefore, all comments must be screened to keep his "I am Elliott Wave God attitude" out of here when he actually does no work in favor of this blog. Sorry, I'm running a blog, not a baby nursery. I am sorry it affects others to some degree.

      TJ

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  8. ETH (dly) - update to Thursday post-

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/vhuzhpo5iamcwog/Ethdly-overlay.png/file

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  9. TLT- (dly)(2x1) - Possible, but yet to trigger - [if interested]

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/gjay9kxkbc0se1z/TLTdly2x1.PNG/file

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    1. 👍 if we get through the next two fed meetings and 150 bps of hikes and TLT has not made a new low, we would probably have a double positive divergence and that would get my attention. At this time I think we get a lower low.

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  10. XLP/SPY (dly)(0.25x1) - I find this encouraging - (but a little work to do) :o)

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/tab2eehy723vw51/xlpspy0.25x1.PNG/file

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    1. thought of this ..but there is one thing I don't like: that is the 'hook' in (c) of 1. In other words, 1 'should be' a simple zigzag or a simple five in a diagonal. If it's a zigzag, the (c) looks too complex. TJ.

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  12. TSLA, which is a major component of the index, could be in a triangle. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976454973355360286/997632706521342012/IMG_0369.png

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  13. JNK and TSLA - They have something in common (by one view) -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/qyz8s0rjyo81n1b/jnktsla.PNG/file

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  14. Informational (for any interested) - 3 Du Plessis methods of horiz target calcs for 1 box reversal charts (no Wyckoff) . Current ETH 50x1 chart.
    https://www.mediafire.com/view/dcsq813ssl4zpli/ETHhorizs.PNG/file

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  15. ES 30-min: afterhours opening gap higher is now filled lower (chart a bit behind). It is very, very ambiguous if the entire up wave is c = a (preferred), or a five wave sequence with an extended first wave.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/5ibj5UlE/

    The line at the top is c = a. The reason c = a is slightly preferred is the up wave does not resemble the extended first wave diagram in the EWP.

    TJ

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    1. P.S. watch the level of the (e) wave of the prior triangle (shown) which was called out on Friday to see if it is undercut tonight. TJ.

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  16. DXY - current

    https://tvc-invdn-com.investing.com/data/tvc_73553126dd1e4b0b86ac50e0a27ae780.png

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  17. ETH (50x1) - update

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/qn4r34ey4gwtpm9/eth7-18.PNG/file

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  18. SPX daily: well, in cash 'someone' knows the line is there as prices have it and at least temporarily backed away. Again, this is for the possible third-of-third count, not the alternate published above.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/yPfwgXBz/

    Let's see how it goes.
    TJ

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  19. ES 30-min: intraday wave-counting-screen. There is a battle going on at R1 daily pivot resistance level, and the 18-per intraday 'line in the sand'. The intraday bias is currently lower, and this fights the daily bias which is currently higher.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/kchpdmPJ/

    Neither of the upper nor lower Bollinger Band has been touched since approximately 5 - 6 AM.

    TJ

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  20. Wondering if that's a possible leading diagonal on 5 minute chart of futures?

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    1. 'possibly' has the price measurements of one; would also like to see it get the time measurements by making a lower low, yet. TJ.

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  21. ES 30-min: an additional down (red) fractal has been added. Intraday Bollinger Bands continue to narrow.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/raDrVa5i/

    TJ

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  22. VIX is not letting go of double/triple bottom support. At least yet

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  23. ES/SPY, this is the dump I was looking for to prove out a lomger-in-time wave v of an expanding diagonal from the high.

    TJ

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    1. Once a retrace begins, given where the daily trend line is, a key issue will be whether that high holds or not.

      TJ

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    2. ES 30-min: now down past daily Pivot Point (P). Chart is behind a bit.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/5cHHS3XF/

      TJ

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    3. ES 30-min: prior two-tick up gap in the futures themselves at ES 3828.00 - 3,828.50 on 15 July now closed. TJ.

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  24. A third down at multiple degrees of trend likely to see a VIX TWS candlestic pattern.

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  25. SPY (5m) - gap fill and go

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/v3qna3zpr9v0vht/5mSPY.PNG/file

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  26. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ

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