Yesterday's post suggested we look for upside sooner rather than later. There was a possibility of a more developed fifth wave down. That did not occur. What did seem to occur was a very negligible truncation which we also noted in the write-up. Thus, the count on the ES 4-Hr chart remains the same.
ES Futures - 4 Hr - Diagonal Count |
The count from wave Minor 4 is that of minute ((a)), down, with the very slight truncation, and now minute ((b)) up. We must wait for the ((b)) wave, up, to burn itself out, and any lower low below minute ((a)) should start the minute ((c)) wave down of Minor 5.
This count gives us clear and crisp invalidation points at the prior Minor 4th wave high. And only good Elliott Wave analysis does that.
Again, Minor 5 only needs to be longer than Minor 3 in price, although it is ideal if it is also longer in time, too. And, here again, Elliott wave analysis provides the projected initial target.
Have a good start to the day.
TraderJoe
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Delete@enjoy .. No! In a contracting diagonal, wave 3 must 'by rule' be shorter than wave 1. Period; no if's and's or buts. Your count is not legal and just amounts to a 'cartoon' drawn for your own purposes. Find a copy of the rules & read them.
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👍 thanks
ReplyDeleteJoe, do you have a count for NQ?
ReplyDeleteWalter .. you really need to try your hand at this..based on the principles I have shown.
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Understood - I'll try to post and you can critique :)
ReplyDeleteToday's rally has reached both the daily and weekly pivots previously untested.
ReplyDeleteJust fyi - from CNBC
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Thanks Tj
DeleteThese 4th wave are very hard to understand for new beeies like me..so many a4 printouts and scale required yo nail it:)
While we wait, an update on BTC [if interested] -
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PTON - It looked like things could get ugly early on [if interested] -
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An aside re: Silver - Is this what it looks like?
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SPY 15-min: I definitely do not know for sure, but there IS a way to count the minute ((b)), circle-b, wave as completed. The gap down makes it possible. And therefore, for this count, I would not want to see today's high taken out.
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The measurements are dead on the money of (c) = 2.618 x (a) in an expanded flat. And there is no problem with a flat or expanded flat 'b' wave in a diagonal.
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On gold, anybody else seeing a triangle that started from 06/01/2021 and is only the b of x in the larger triangle cycle C.
ReplyDeleteNot sure if this is what you're seeing, but looks like a possibility -
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SPX 1-min: two versions of a diagonal; one completed, one not completed. Only below 4,440.89 separates the two.
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..larger version invalidated.
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..the morning low is now exceeded lower.
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Gw Leslie Masonson interviewed Tom Dorsey in February TASC magazine. Tom is a retired PnF trader. As time allows I’ll dig in.
ReplyDelete👍 He's one of the key people in PnF.
DeleteBasis cfd, neg HD target at 4329.
ReplyDeleteSlightly higher close has negated the noted HD. Another still possible, but no down tick to "set" it yet.
DeleteSPX cash - over the high. Another form of 'b' wave likely.
ReplyDelete..occurred on FED meeting minutes.
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SPX cash 15-min: here is the next best minute ((b)) wave, as of this time. Must take out the FED minutes low to be meaningful.
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It is very possible that (c) is a diagonal, 'possibly' ending.
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SPX cash 3-min: here is just the potential (c) wave portion.
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Because the retraces are not very deep, keep in mind, this just could be a portion of a Flat pattern. Needs to exceed 4,422 lower for diagonal.
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Thanks Tj,
Delete4432 you mean in cash?
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ReplyDeleteI've reviewed your post explaining the rules and parameters of diagonals found here:
https://www.mediafire.com/view/kugx9s20guu4ezh/Contracting_Diagonal.jpg/file
Are there any hard rules about whether the internal structure of a diagonal in wave 1 position needs to be a 5-3-5-3-5 and a diagonal in wave 5 or C needs to have a 3-3-3-3-3 structure? If not hard rules, are their guidelines?
I'm pondering whether the internal structure supports a contracting leading diagonal as shown in the daily ES chart here:
https://www.mediafire.com/view/kugx9s20guu4ezh/Contracting_Diagonal.jpg/file
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..the two links are the same. The structure of a diagonal depends on if it is leading or ending. Leading can be 5-3-5-3-5 or 3-3-3-3-3, and ending can 'only' be 3-3-3-3-3.
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A leading diagonal occurs in wave 1 of an impulse and wave A of an A-B-C correction. Guideline usually subdivides 5-3-5-3-5 for waves 1-2-3-4-5 and sometimes subdivides 3-3-3-3-3 for corrective patterns.
DeleteGW, This is what I was thinking on Gold. Looks the most symmetrical and I don't have to force any trendlines.
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I think I have seen 4 or 5 triangle options. That tells me the cycle count is probably correct as it is damn hard to figure out gyrations inside a triangle.
DeleteJust remember I was among the first, if not 'the' first to suggest a triangle in Gold (GC).
DeleteYep, 8/7/2021 post
Deletebreakout which way?
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ReplyDeleteIs that a H&S pattern with 4300 neckline? If so there is a potential 500 point drop.
There’s also an upward slanted one on the S&P hourly, that activated just before the close. Targets 4100ish.
DeleteSPXcfd - Less noise, less precise - the trade off
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SPX cash 15-min: second gap down; this one to trend line. Previous gap filled.
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SPX 15-min: (b) wave bottoms taken out lower 'apparently' in less time than the up wave. In cash - at least - that is. Those of you that follow futures know it took much more time to defeat the down wave than an upward diagonal would have suggested. Very, very interesting.
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Keep in mind, the 'rules & guidelines' likely came from extensive study of the cash markets.
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Yesterday' neg HD was negated by slightly higher close. It has been reestablished, and is 4331 (basis cfd)
ReplyDeleteCfd (4hr) - current (line)
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Would you please explain the meaning of "neg HD"?
DeleteI don't know if other followers of this blog understand these abbreviations and acronyms, but I sure don't.
Here is a link to the Stockcharts.com "Chart School" Glossary entries on Hidden Divergences (HD).
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Scroll down to Hidden Divergence (Bullish & Bearish paragraphs). I have included the reference so you don't think GW is making something up. But, keep in mind, like all divergences, reliability is the issue.
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ES 5-min: fyi - down wave is 90% of prior up wave. Can allow the 'b' wave of a flat or next impulse lower.
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TJ - what is the probability we are in a WXY down from all time high instead of diagonal? We would be in wave 3 of Y now.
DeleteTimH .. don't you need to tell me why your count is the better count? I mean, if I thought it was the better count, wouldn't I say so? The problem with it is - as I have explained in prior comments - that as a corrective wave it would be much longer in price than the prior Intermediate (X) waves. I'm not saying that's impossible. I'm only saying that it makes me scratch my head as to why this would be so.
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ES 5-min: fyi price went through the low. Cash SPX has a gap at 4400.42; might fill.
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SPX cash gap just filled, and SPX breaches a parallel.
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Gold is at an inflection point. Bearish divergence on the weekly breakout from the mini triangle.
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