Here is the weekly chart of the ES futures contract with 100 weekly candles on it. A few notes have been made on the chart.
ES Futures - Weekly - Considerations |
Starting on the left, the first move up "looks like" three waves. It might be 'five' but you really have to strain to try to make it so. I have shown a count which gets a (1) at the August 2020 high, but as I noted it was 'counting backward', and not in real time.
Next, moving up and to the right the whole wave sequence is extremely choppy. It is truly difficult to find broad expansive impulse waves up. There are a few small gaps but nothing eye-opening. As we know, the whole wave was built on FED stimulus. Now that the stimulus is slowing down, the wave structure has turned lower. This is significant rationale for the Primary ((B)) wave count. It is false in that it is not economically driven.
The latest downward wave is the largest correction on the board, now in terms of both price & time - even if the wave is considered a flat wave from the September 2021 high. That's not fatal for an upward count but it is a warning sign as the downward portion only ..not considered as a Flat.. is the longest downward wave since the March 2020 Covid low.
Next, on the right-hand-side of the chart is the Fibonacci ruler. We see that if you consider the up wave since Oct/Nov 2022 as a third wave, this down wave is not yet a 38.2% retracement. That is actually a positive for the 'five-waves-up' count, but it is one of the few.
Finally, on the lower left is shown that the Elliott Wave Oscillator has absolutely no sign of a second wave dip. 'Usually' - most often - second waves on the EWO show a dip very near to the zero line when there are 120 - 160 candles on the chart. This is completely absent from the pattern of the EWO shown.
So, those are the factors for-and-against a five-wave-up count versus a Primary ((B)) wave count - besides the condition that a line from 0 - (2) would break a third wave, actually several times. This is a matter of probabilities and circumstance as to which occurs. By circumstance, I mean that the FED could decide it must relent and not raise rates. So far, we have not heard such. As a matter of probability, we must be open to the possibility of a higher wave. IFF a diagonal forms properly (it has in the Dow futures, it has not yet in the ES futures), then it is the post-pattern behavior which will confirm a leading diagonal or clarify that it was only an ending diagonal. This is the only item that matters - not my opinion or your opinion. The market must eventually make the call.
Closer in, the ES two-hourly chart, below, indicates the count that might work to the lows.
Today's rise was sufficient to risk invalidation. From the angle of attack, it looks like last night was the third wave. That leaves a fourth and a fifth wave to complete. One way to form an impulse wave lower is to form a triangle wave iv, followed by a fifth wave lower. Again, we don't know this will occur, but the triangle's ((e)) wave could possibility eliminate overlap with wave ii. The EWO seems to indicate wave iii did occur last night, and the EWO is currently headed back towards the zero line.
In light of the first chart in this post, note how wave ii did have its EWO pull back well-toward the zero line. The thinking reader needs to ask, "why doesn't this happen on the weekly chart?".
Have a good start to your evening.
TraderJoe
Thanks! Very helpful.
ReplyDeleteThank you, not trusting that bounce one bit.
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ReplyDeleteReally good and thoughtful analysis. Thank you!
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Thanks Joe, I find that very logical. We'll see how it develops. I read the opinion of an analyst who says that yesterday’s rise was only short position closings. Your triangle supports this view.
ReplyDeleteIt seemed logical, but it has not been.
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GW - what books do you recommend to learn more about these charts? They're interesting
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DeleteSend me an email at greywaver73@gmail.com when handy.
Stockcharts Chart school has really good info on PnF as well. Free.
DeletePrashant Shah's, A.W. Cohen's (if you can find it), Dorsey's. I haven't read it, but
ReplyDeleteDu Plessis's is another. As they say, "old school, but still cool". :o)
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DeleteWave count aside. We just retested 250 ema and neckline. No overlap on SPX
ReplyDeleteRbob and soybeans sure look like completed impulses on the weekly charts.
ReplyDelete124 bars so far on NQ 15 mins.
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Price has pierced bottom of temporary channel so 4th wave might be over.
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Sorry these are ES charts.
DeleteWedge kind of structure on es 5 mins.
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Given the price action, it seems like the push off the bottom could be "c" of ((b)) for a larger ((b)) wave. Thoughts?
ReplyDelete'thinking the same', but no clear evidence yet.
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Market was very lean to the printer at the low, so I assume people are trying what worked the last 10 years.
ReplyDeleteES Wave count has gotten less clear, temporarily. I suspect there are factors involved. The first one might be - because of the Russia situation, the President's Working Group (PPT) might be involved to shore up confidence in US markets. The second one is this one - the first sign of the FED relenting. Do I hear J Powell coughing?
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TJ
Thanks TJ,
DeleteI assume Covid-19 was also introduced to increase the supply of money and reducing interest rate. War will alreadt hyper inflation as Russia is the energy source for while Europe. Tume us different this time.
Is that a failed 5 th on spx ?
ReplyDeleteES 'some possibilities' are:
ReplyDelete1. a longer ((a)) wave, followed by a flat
2. a longer ((a)) wave, followed by a triangle
3. SPX truncated, DOW did not.
There is no clear evidence yet, so one has to follow the technicals.
TJ
Does a truncation disqualify the exp diag. since 5 didn't exceed 3?
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Addendum: From the 2/10 post -
Delete"Again, IFF a diagonal is to play out, then wave 5 'must be' longer than wave 3." This would seem to suggest that the diag. was disqualified, and that options 1 and 2 above would be in play.
See my post @ 1:22 pm today. We could 'still be' in Minor 5 of the diagonal, taking a temporary detour. But, no, if 5 does not exceed 3 in the SPX then it is not a diagonal, it is just a triple zigzag lower. Time will tell.
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ES - update
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Basis this chart, price has retraced between the .50-.618 levels (currently)
DeleteThe .618 retrace (4400) is confluent with a vertical and (reversal) horizontal measure of 4410.
DeleteES 2-hr: This would be the idea for the Flat wave count. It only works 'cause (b) is less than ((a)) in price and time.
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Caution: this is still a "low probability situation", although price is still below the daily 'line-in-the-sand'. There has to be evidence of a sufficient down move first (i.e. break of trend line drawn up through the lows, clear hourly reversing candle & confirmation, etc.
TJ
ES 15-min: keep in mind the overnight retrace was again less than 38.2% as shown by the Fibonacci ruler.
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We could again be working the case of the extended first wave, particularly if the (b) wave truncated at the low.
TJ
An aside, SPX - The 50% low pole (bullish) has become an important pattern in the PnF world. The chart below details the pattern and some insights [if interested] -
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THX GW
DeleteES 15-min: higher high likely the ((B)) wave of an expanded flat to alternate with wave ii.
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Have a good weekend, all.
TJ
Thanks TJ
Deletehow does one determine "live" that wave 1 will be extended?
ReplyDeleteGood question. 'During' the wave, price action just 'grinds'. None of the retraces happen as expected. Fractals continue to break to the upside. The day 'often' ends on the exact high. 'After' the wave, the second wave retrace is typically less than 38.2%.
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P.S. It is 'very' difficult to distinguish such a wave from an 'A' wave in real time.
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BTC - A few observations - [if interested]
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Gold/SPX - Looks like may be basing (need 3 box rev.) -
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Weekly candle on gold is worth paying attention to, could be the top of a complex B wave instead of a triangle with a monumental C about to come down.
Deletethe bulls think we are about to embark on an extended 3rd wave up
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ES - COT
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XLF - nearing decision time
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DJP/AGG - Inflation gauge
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What's old is new(?) again - from Cohen to Burke [if interested]
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DXY - observations
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If you currently are not using (or considering using) PnFs on TradingView, this will be of no interest to you - Drawing "45" degree TLs
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