Saturday, September 4, 2021

A Tale of Two Scenarios

As most people know the ES daily futures made nearly a perfect Doji candle on Friday after the payroll employment report. Swift confirmation of that candle  might point the way lower. In the futures, there is a wave down and about a 71% upward retrace. We sketched it out on Friday in the comments (which you can view at this LINK). This posting tries to explain the cash market. If the overnight on Sunday/Monday confirms the Doji with a significantly lower low, then that would lend to this first scenario in the cash market.

SPY Cash - 30 min - Exhaustion Gap

In Scenario #1 a fourth wave ended at the end of the day on 30 Aug. And the question is whether the large gap up on 2 Sept is an exhaustion gap or not. If it was, then the up wave did end as the expanding ending diagonal (E-E-D, above) we sketched out in the futures. In that case, perhaps a downward wave in cash will form as a diagonal. Note that the ES top, so far, actually occurred on the morning of 3 Sept. Wave i down is a "three-wave" ((A)),((B)),((C)) lower, and wave ii could be a 'deep-retrace' wave.

Still, with the very same waves in cash we can sketch out a Scenario #2 in which all of these waves are part of the fourth wave triangle, with a top to come later this week. It looks like this.


We could have waves a,b,c,d of a triangle, and now in the e wave. And actually, the e wave has already crossed back under the center line of a triangle to validate the pattern.

This is one of the essences of what I have termed The Fourth Wave Conundrum. You can still make a lot of different patterns with three-wave sequences. And hopefully, this post shows why there is such a need for flexibility, patience and calm around market tops. Sometimes, unclear or three-wave sequences can be used in both cases.

So if there is this uncertainty in price, can time help us out at all? Well, looking at the expanding ending diagonal we sketched out in the ES futures, it took 67 hourly candles to build. So far, the market has spent only 8 hourly candles making a potential wave i down, and wave ii, up. So, although it does not look like it in the cash market, the ES futures have plenty of time to confirm that the up waves were an expanding ending diagonal by breaking the start of the diagonal in less time than the diagonal took to build. This is just one of the reasons why we always confirm time parameters with the futures, including as we do for degree labeling.

Just as a reminder, here is the diagram of the potential ending expanding diagonal in the ES 30-min chart just as we called it out. It would require confirmation by traveling below 4,512.50 in less time than the diagonal took to build.

ES Futures - 30 Minutes - Ending Expanding Diagonal

And, from this diagram, you can see how much more time left the futures have to confirm this potential ending pattern.

Have an excellent rest of the weekend.

TraderJoe


22 comments:

  1. Nice detail! If we're voting, I'll take door #1. :o)

    Gold/XMI (3mth) - A very interesting chart I saw to which Ive added some observations.

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/bocxeqbbpbsn73o/GoldXMI.PNG/file

    If you enjoy some thoughtful and cerebral charts you likely wont see anywhere else, give this a watch (this Gold/XMI chart was but one of about 30 charts presented)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDjy0VCPrQg&t=3800s

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    1. I like door 1 as well. I didn't like UNC or Clemson game. Just saying :)

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  2. XLE (mthly) - observations and thoughts going forward -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/8dei2ik7xayfcsq/XLEm.PNG/file

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  3. In the ES daily, some interesting Fibonacci clustering in price, and Fibo time relationships are shown.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/YkRETC16/

    TJ

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    1. Nice work. Beyond 4579 your counts will change?

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    2. Thx.. depends if/how it gets there. Will evaluate at the time.
      TJ

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  4. hi joe
    when is the start of the decline?

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    1. please see the blog post above, and stop asking this repetitive question ..and sending me multiple nuisance comment requests, without even bothering to read the information.

      TJ

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    2. .and see the comment at 11:29 AM EDT.

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  5. Coal (mthly) - [if interested] -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/exic3lnjj8uxbfj/CoalFutures.PNG/file

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  6. Hi joe
    your graphics are useless
    you change your mind every 2 days
    you don't give anything concrete
    the days when there will be a big drop you will be in the cabbages

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    1. stop writing in. All your further posts will go to spam. It's clear you do not have what it takes to count waves, nor have you posted anything useful. My weekly upward count has been and remains (W),(X),(Y) and I am prepared for a drop 'at any time'. Bye, bye.

      TJ

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  7. How Stan might view the IWM (wkly) -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/zio30xrofh3q6zy/IWM.PNG/file

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  8. IWM (mthly) some final thoughts -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/9e4hjjyyjv63bwe/iwmM.PNG/file

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  9. URA (wkly) - closed 23.93, HD target 39.07. Fwiw.

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  10. https://schrts.co/FMwAPwtq

    QQQ - 200 EMA WEEKLY. At some point we will see another reversion to the mean. At the moment that would be 60%.

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  11. Hi Joe,

    Thanks for the post. I have a question regarding degree labeling: if the current (c) of Y exceeded W in terms of "time", does it mean we are in (3) of 3 and the whole up move will be part of a large impulse?

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    1. Hi Redcloud. Possibly, but not necessarily in this case. I addressed the potential issue in this post.

      http://studyofcycles.blogspot.com/2021/08/waiting-on-dow.html

      Please read all of the notes on the chart, as well.
      TJ

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  12. SPX (3mths) The reckoning -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/kxkqwrrh11hzgph/parabolic.PNG/file

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  13. URA/GDX (mthly) - under the radar?

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/n7ifjcmzmqc5r43/URAgdx.PNG/file

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  14. DXY (2day) - Observations - A seemingly key point in time -

    https://www.mediafire.com/view/mvqpo522f5crp7u/DXY.PNG/file

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  15. There is a new post started for the next day.
    TJ

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