Saturday, July 11, 2026

Cobbler

Like the shoe repairman that tries to save a worn-out pair with new soles, or even more like one of your favorite Savannah, GA peach deserts, I have tried to cobble together the count from what was lying around and available for use - segments we counted earlier. Using the ES 8-hr roll-over contract - the one that is most actively traded - provides this possible view of a barrier triangle. At least it does at this time.

ES Futures (Roll-over contract) - 8 Hr - Possible Barrier Triangle

Friday's up wave is so close to nicking the high that we must allow that it might. If it does, then, it might be a second zigzag upward of the double zigzag w-x-y count to the minuet (d) wave of the triangle. And, this wave may be allowed to go over the top, again, within certain limits.

From this high, it is perhaps possible to make the (e) wave of the triangle, which probably (not certainly) would take out the prior x wave lower. Notice the (c) wave, lower, only retraced a little over 62%, so something similar should be expected for the (e) wave. From there, the minute  wave top should occur as an impulse or as a diagonal to end the Minor C wave, up.

Now, notice the pattern on the Elliott Wave Oscillator (EWO or AO). You can see the contracting lines across the peaks and valleys and fairly tight hugging of the zero line overall that typically signal a contracting triangle.

If the triangle validates, with a higher high after the (e) wave, it might signal "the last wave dead-ahead" for this index. And, often, not always, the thrust out of a barrier triangle is sub-par. It might not travel the typical technical analysis target of "widest-width-of-the-triangle-added-to-the-breakout-point". It might. But it might not.

We have been looking for a formation that might signal the end of the monthly contracting diagonal, and this might be the start of it. Time will tell. And, yes, the current position shown of the C wave is just a placeholder. It is possible that Goldman & Co will try to drive the market to their 8,000+ target, which would be a Fibonacci number of 8 x 1000. But it might not get there, either.

So, why the barrier triangle? The compression of the triangle is trying to shorten up the minuet (e) wave, and thus all of the minute fourth wave triangle to be more equal in price to the minute second wave which was a fairly small wave. Remember triangles are always measured, pricewise, to their (e) waves. And yet the triangle would show huge alternation in time with its second wave, as shown in the daily chart, below.

ES Futures (Roll-over Contract) - Daily - Barrier Triangle

Again, right now we don't have any overlapping waves (in terms of minute ) to play off of. So, it still follows the 'rules' to call this a fourth wave overall. There are alternates from here. We could have topped but the odds of that grow lower with the higher highs. And it is possible a final upward contracting diagonal is being constructed to drag this thing out into oblivion. But we'll deal with these possibilities if and when they seem to take over the count.

For now, have an excellent rest of the weekend,

TraderJoe

27 comments:

  1. From black B...so channels are a sometimes thing?

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    1. Neely says on page 5-11; Figure 5-6, "continuous breaks of a 2 - 4 trendline frequently implies Triangle development." End quote. TJ.

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    2. What do you suggest the count is, Roy C?

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    3. RNE says, "draw a line from 1-to-3, place a parallel on 2, and use that as a 'guide' to finding wave 4; then 'once' the end of wave 4 is found, redraw the line from 2 to 4, and place a parallel copy on 3 as a 'guide' to finding wave 5. Sometimes 5 will end at the mid-line of that channel, sometimes at the upper parallel."

      Finding the end of wave 4 is an exercise in probability.
      TJ

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    4. David, let me know if you can't see this chart.

      https://schrts.co/rZXnCyfv

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    5. TJ, I really think your forcing a larger degree structure into a smaller degree wave.

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    6. @Roy. I'm not trying to 'force' anything. I'm trying to count using objective tools. Here is a slight variant where the triangle is over & done.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/BbhuoEOL/

      The objective tools are the following. 1) MACD divergence - see bottom panel. There was a divergence for (v) of minute-iii, circle-iii, 2) MACD has not quite returned to the zero line, but is close. It could, but it hasn't yet. Maybe it could on another (e) wave down, the barrier triangle version. 2) There has not been a single 38% retrace in this wave yet., 3) I'll leave room for the whole thing to be an ending diagonal wave, but we have no 62% retraces as might be expected. And I'll still leave very little odds of a down count because we aren't over the top yet.

      IF you have a better count, for more objective reasons, I'm all ears.
      TJ.

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    7. TJ, Accurate channels don't begin at the Zero point. But it looks good.
      See my post to David above.
      One of our differences is I see the 1st wave down from the June 2nd high in SPY as a 5. You did too at one time.
      If we go over the top you'll label it as a c, I'll label it as a 5, which is no big difference in net outcome.
      Ain't it fun?

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    8. @Roy..show me the formal "book definition" of an "accurate channel". I am not trying to play with anyone's thoughts, but I have repeatedly pointed out the problems of the "double-tops". 2 in the chart below is a double top. It makes wave-counting very, very slippery.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/GPEE1pQu/

      There were two problems with the SPY count. While it "can be" counted as a "5", it seems to count better as a "three" because in 140 candles there is no EWO or AO divergence at the low. That is 'more characteristic" of a "C" wave. Second, the futures have a lower low after the bottom wave, that SPY does not have.

      Hope it helps.
      TJ.

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    9. TJ, repeat your channel using RNE's rules as you presented them, and then tell me it has a believable look.
      If you want to see the divergence focus on RSI. In my experience MACD can get fooled by power, while RSI never gets fooled.

      https://schrts.co/WPPTPXXZ

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    10. @Roy. I get both objections. There are three items I will say in return on the chart below, 1) "A line drawn from the start of A to the end of B, with a parallel placed on the end of A, 'often' points to the end of C.", See chart below.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/8xsTejrL/

      2) Look at the "size" of B. There is 'nothing' larger about minute-iv, circle-iv, that is larger than B. So, degree violations do not exist - in time or in price.

      3) I have never taken the monthly "Expanding Diagonal" off of the table.
      TJ

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  2. ES/SPY (CFD) 30-min: here is the opening half-hour, or so. Nothing to the downside (war news, etc.) will surprise me.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/AZVEVCgd/

    I'll keep counting until I can't due to length violations, degree violations, overlaps, etc. There is one new level of overlap (shown).
    TJ

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  3. Thanks Tj for so many post with so much different charts and comments over the weekend.

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  4. Lol! I wonder how long before market makers start complaining about how much money the bots' (or banksters) reflexive gap down dip buying is costing them...really predictably hilarious, and fun, to watch. Here comes 150.00 Oil...and the death of BTFD...

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  5. ES/SPY (CFD) 30-min: if you draw trend lines over the tops & bottoms, it 'currently' suggests either a smaller triangle, pointing up, or a diagonal, pointing down. Resolution needed.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/VezSpj9g/

    Very whippy.
    TJ

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    1. 'Around' 10:07 POTUS said the US would take over the Strait.

      Strait NEws

      TJ

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    2. Just to be clear, here is the potential triangle version - likely a 'b' wave, if day before yesterday was 'a' up.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/UwXxHeGA/

      And here is the expanding diagonal version, which might be a C wave to yesterday's up 'B' wave. Very difficult stuff, this.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/GZyvLX0n/

      TJ

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  6. I have noticed every ew expert out there is calling this up and down for past few weeks is callimg a triangle...this makes me a bit weary.

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  7. ES/SPY (CFD) 30-min: down move does now 'qualify' as a diagonal with v > iii, Iv > ii and iv overlapping i, without going above the high of ii. Chart below.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/vm0HzxQE/

    TJ

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    1. In the CFD it did undercut the Friday down bar by a tick, so it is "possible" to say there is an A-B-C down as an expanded flat. But we don't 'know' it is done yet. It could be but doesn't have to be. And after two closes below the band, we should see if this close is in the band or not. TJ.

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    2. ...third close below the band, drops the odds to ~3-6% of next close outside the lower band (not impossible, just lower odds). Intraday slow stochastic is in over-sold territory. TJ.

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    3. fourth close below the band, now drops the odds to ~2-5% of the next close below the band.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/n1VB9Ww1/

      Still not impossible, just lower odds.
      TJ

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    4. ...close inside the band resets the number of consective closes. TJ.

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  8. Spy 30 minutes - Diagonal forming?
    https://schrts.co/VHUhpuut

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  9. ES/SPY (CFD) 30-min: intraday slow stochastic embedded; 18-bear-cross-100 per SMA. There is not much bullish intraday until price gets over the 18-per.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/ZV6j0OLE/

    The whole diagonal also could be 'a' of the (e) wave of the larger daily triangle.
    TJ

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  10. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ

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