Tuesday, October 7, 2025

Second Verse Same as the First

Yesterday, we pointed out that the daily slow stochastic on the ES futures had its third day of re-embedding. Ira Epstein (broker with the Linn Group, LLC.) who noted this characteristic also noted that the 'second' time embedding happens in-a-row it is often - not always - a sign of a weakened market; one that is wobbling. The ES daily price chart is below. Price has still closed above the 18-day SMA, and so the daily bias is still positive.

ES Futures - Daily - Outside Key-Reversal Bar

However, today's bar can be a "key reversal" bar taking out the high and low of the previous two bars after the highest high in the trend count (i.e. today). And, depending on where it closes, it might also come to be considered a double-close key reversal, closing below two of the prior closes.

Today was a 'turn-around Tuesday' which is interesting of itself. There is a way to consider a top in place, but more downside is needed. Today's bar just is not that long yet although it does overlap with the bars of 22 & 23 Sep. So, patience will rule. Loss of the embedded slow stochastic might be one factor to wait to observe, and a close below that line-in-the-sand might be another. 

With price having hit the upper daily Bollinger Band again, it might be a place where the Smart Money is at least lightening up on some positions. 

If we have finished the Minor A wave up, remember I am primarily looking for a Minor B wave down.

Have an excellent start to the evening,

TraderJoe

25 comments:

  1. An intractable meandering B wave down would nicely set up a year end rally in a final wave up. Cycle guys ( Chaiken and Nenner) anticipate a major top in 2027. Things starting to get interesting!

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    1. So is the Benner/Fibonacci Cycle Chart ..which shows 2026 on the middle line in the right 1/3'rd of the chart. Reference this post.

      Benner Fibonacci Cycle Chart

      Chaiken & Nenner aren't doing too much that hasn't been done before.
      TJ

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    2. Very true! And they both readily concede that they owe much of what they do to the work of others including Benner. Chaiken stresses this on his discussions about market price action and the "election year" cycle.

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  2. 2 hr Spy. We finally get a wave 4 MACD Histogram print.

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  3. ES/SPY (CFD) 1 Hr: getting a one-hour outside bar. Watch it's high.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/lJUMmFLo/

    TJ

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    1. Up count currently looks something like this; Flat-X-Zigzag

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/0rKNXuVV/

      Waiting to see if/when it stops.
      TJ

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  4. SPY 1-Hr: Roy's SPY count win's with a complex bottom in iv (uncountable due to truncation), and five up.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/xmNJ1Nzx/

    TJ

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  5. The vix is in an obvious downward wedge - like formation but it can't seem to breakout. Another visit to the lows of the channel would get it to 13-12. At this point I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

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  6. Gold seems like x5 blow off top.

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    1. Could be just first leg up of 5...

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    2. Here's a new problem I have with long-term GOLD. The channel hits are non-existent. Period. Are these just smaller degree waves? Look where the EWO is presently.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/QDZosnSx/

      TJ

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    3. ..and the level of the channel for ④ is now above the level for ①. TJ.

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    4. So if in a 3 of 3 the top channel of around 12k would be a minimum target?

      I see a lot of gold stories on the news.

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    5. There will be extreme pull-backs along the way, for example, if GOLD lost $1,000 tomorrow, it would be 'nuthing' on this chart. But 13k is a Fibo number. First, we'd need to make 5k & 8k. It's always possible wedges form, then reaccelerate, etc. TJ.

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    6. It is a little frustrating as a discipline when that decline into 2016 has been labeled...

      4 in a longer wedge count
      a in a flat or triangle for a 4
      a in a running flat for ii of 3

      They all pointed to up on the yearly but that is a lot goal post moving.

      Is what it is, a probablity game or it would not be a market.

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    7. If you could only see 5-min GOLD now. What nonsense. TJ.

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    8. It's wild. Like the wild west. It is practically uncountable.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/c1j2yDkr/

      TJ

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    9. GOLD 5-min: maybe in the context of a sideways triangle or a downward diagonal. But the downward count doesn't work well. Trying my best.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/4KpNRIxh/

      TJ

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  7. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ

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