Sunday, October 8, 2023

If Not iv, then 'b' ? A Further Analysis

Five things seem wrong about counting the current down wave impulsively. Even though as per the EWO on the prior 2-hr chart of the SPY (see LINK), it certainly looks like a wave iv signature, it might be a wave 'b', instead. The five suspect items are listed below.

  1. There's the funny business with the difference between the futures rollover contract chart, just the current month contract chart, and cash. The futures rollover chart has that higher high which can't be a second wave (see the first chart below).
  2. The Dow and the Russell have overlapped downward; the NDX & S&P have not. The indexes are not acting consistently - we know because of the magnificent seven.
  3. The latest downward wave is longer than the first downward wave in the ES. So, it should not be the subwave of an impulse (see the second chart below). Even given that fact, the daily Elliott Wave Oscillator is lower and not diverging.
  4. Looking at the move from the top, several of the segments do not look impulsive. They did not start with decisive breaks and long candles to the downside. They were grinding.
  5. Then, there is the weekly channel consideration.
This suggests two likely possibilities:1) It's only going to be A-B-C down of the larger wave 4 up in the alternate, or 2) we are in an expanding diagonal lower. Let's look at the charts.

Chart # 1 - SPX v ES Rollover - Counting Mismatch


As the chart shows the ES futures roll-over chart with the higher high would prevent counting a second subwave (as from yesterday's chart) as ii on 14 Sep. We pointed that out in the comments of prior posts. With this in mind, the next chart shows the longer wave downward wave than the first, and the lower Elliott Wave Oscillator (EWO).

Chart #2 - ES Roller-over Daily - Longer Wave & Lower EWO


As we said, several of the segments from the highs do not look impulsive. Given that, it may be possible to count the segments as a-b-c's as below. This might suggest the market is making a diagonal lower IF new lower lows are made.

Chart # 3 - ES Futures - Daily - Counting as a-b-c's

Then, there are the weekly channel considerations. As we have shown before, the best bullish alternate is that the fourth wave, 4, of an upward weekly channel holds in this index - as in Chart # 4, below.

ES Futures - Weekly - Channel Considerations

So, the three channel considerations are these:

  1. If the channel breaks lower, it will be a very large, recognizable symbol of lower waves. Thus, it would likely initiate a third wave lower. The way this could happen from here is if the ES is still in the third wave of a diagonal.
  2. Glenn Neely in Mastering Elliott Wave indicates that rarely, if ever, do impulse waves travel in an exact channel. It is usually zigzags that form in that manner. Recall, too, in the preferred count that wave C is still less than 1.618 x A. Our observation in the Eight-Fold-Path-Method states that usually the extended third wave would hike its head above the channel in an up move. That did not happen above.
  3. Third - while not of critical import - it is worth noting that there is reverse alternation in the above wave. Wave red 2 would have formed as a Flat, and wave red 4 would have formed as a multiple zigzag. While not proof positive, usually large impulses form with the sharp second wave and the sideways wave as the fourth wave (unless a triangle forms). A triangle is temporality being ruled out for this wave because the downward wave seems to be a double-zigzag. Triangles usually start with a violent single zigzag. The down wave is just not very violent or speedy at all.
So, we will continue to watch for any signs of renewed selling near the 18-day SMA and the prior upward support/resistance zones. And, in particular, we will look for signs of the new lower low and downward break of the weekly channel. 

Why and how might this happen? While I don't delve much into fundamental analysis, perhaps the larger downward third wave would be created by poor earnings reports from the multinationals because of the higher dollar. We are about to go into earnings season. Then, after the third wave is made lower, a fourth wave up in a diagonal might coincide with the typical year-end rally. So, it is worthwhile to keep an eye on earnings this quarter as a further sign.

Have an excellent rest of the weekend.
TraderJoe

15 comments:

  1. just fyi - in an initial knee-jerk to the Hamas-Israeli war, the ES futures themselves have gapped lower. Brokers also (with almost no noticed) banned day-trading margins for a while. It will be interesting to see if the gap closes. There is 'already' some downside overlap.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/TtVTLXN6/

    On the ES 4-hr chart, the possibilities include a smaller green triangle (shown below) to rescue an impulse upward, or the larger blue triangle for a 'b' or 'iv' wave.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/tmExXU4j/

    TJ

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  2. Crude Oil (4 hr) has also gapped higher after five-waves down and may be headed into an a-b-c correction upward. The down count was the extended fifth wave count (or 5 > 3 > 1).

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/h997zam6/

    TJ.

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  3. Thanks ET!

    "If" we get the larger 4 bottom on SPX. How about this DOW count?
    I know it´s a massive time degree violation on the X wave, but at least not in price.
    https://invst.ly/11o3vm

    The reason I came to think about this, is from looking at the value sector ETFs that have a greater index weight in DOW relative S&P500. We haven´t seen a value driven outperformance in a while..

    Healthcare (XLV)
    https://invst.ly/11o43n

    Staples (XLP)
    https://invst.ly/11o47u

    Industrials (XLI)
    https://invst.ly/11o4aa

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    1. No, not really. I'm not even saying I endorse the count below, but why wouldn't you try to avoid the degree violation (by making the upward & downward waves the same degree) and potentially put the (4)'s at the same location??

      https://invst.ly/11o7k4

      In short, this is not the best work - more like a cartoon drawing based on what you 'think' (your words not mine). One really needs to stop 'thinking' and get more comfortable with actual counting (hint: if you try shorter term counting with real money at risk, the market will quickly teach you what works and what doesn't). Again, the chart above does not even activate until price is above the prior ⓑ wave, and I do not necessarily endorse the count at this time.

      TJ

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  4. ES 1-hr: with the gap fill and higher high, the diagonal wave up is now in play. TJ.

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  5. SPY 30-min: this might be considered 'five-up' almost done in a wedge, and meeting the 'minimum flat objective'. It can go further, there might be another pop tomorrow.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/EPoPhDW2/

    TJ

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  6. If we are going to stick precisely to the 1929-1987 market movements, we would see a rally that peaks this coming Friday, which is 29 trading days from the early September peak.

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  7. SPY 30-min: here is that pop I mentioned could happen this morning. SPY is over the wedge and approaching the 'typical' flat target of 1.618 x a-3 added to b-3.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/NsUWwqxm/

    TJ

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    1. ouch - I (and likely a few others) took a gander short at the 18d and got ran over

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    2. there was a huge volume trade in SSO yesterday (these typically coincide with highs/lows) so this morning's move could be a stop run

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    3. Who knew a middle east war could be so bullish. I put a note in my trading book to go max leverage if a nuke ever flies.

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  8. Gold could be in a five of a contracting diagonal off the recent bottom.

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  9. SPY 30-min: longest down (red) candle since ii. Back to 1.618 target.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/DxZpkwzp/

    TJ

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    1. As always, for sign of change in direction look for break of up-trend line, back test and fail lower. TJ.

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  10. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ

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