Several of us on the blog have discussed the idea of the Expanding Triangle as a way both to make a wave that is deeper in price for a correction, as well as to make a wave that is long-enough in time to be a companion to the Minor A wave, up, in the diagonal Intermediate (5)th wave. The good news now is that there are enough waves to visualize this possibility, using ES daily closing prices in the chart below.
A key feature of an expanding triangle is that each wave should be longer in time as it expands in price, and so far, that criterion is working out. Second, the ⓔ wave of the triangle must do two things. It 'must' both cross the center of the triangle lower again, and it must go on to make a lower low than ⓒ - at least intraday. If the lower low is not made, it would be difficult to distinguish the pattern from a failed flat.
Typically, the waves in an expanding triangle are limited to 150% travel, by rule, which so far has held up.
The advantages to considering this pattern are that 1) it might help provide divergence with the $NYAD, the NYSE advance/decline line before a more final Minor C wave, up. 2) it might be another way to explain to explain the stuttering of prices and very hesitant price drops other than by a diagonal, 3) it might be a way to burn time before the mid-term elections. Note that many Elliott waves end with a triangle in the next-to-last position. This would be that triangle.
The disadvantage of the pattern is obviously the difficulties of trading any triangles with the abrupt starts and stops, the periods of grinding ranges, the sharp drops and the eye-opening retraces that seemingly come out of nowhere.
That said, this is still an alternate at this time. It's a very good alternate. The pattern itself is recognized both in the Prechter & Neely descriptions, although Neely refers to it as a horizontal triangle, and so it should be kept in mind as price progresses to see if the pattern is validated. In the Neely description, though, he suggests that the ⓔ wave can progress to the 1.618 or even 2.618 level. I'm not so sure where he gets the evidence for the extensions and wish he would have provided a live example, or two. I'm not sure if those come from the currency or other markets, but I don't recall seeing them recently in the equity markets.
In any event, this is the second post since Thursday. Have an excellent rest of the weekend.
TraderJoe

Wondering if I am missing something in thinking one of the 2 conditions for the e wave to be superfluous. Going below the C wave would necessarily require crossing the center line it seems!
ReplyDeleteOnly mentioned because it hasn't happened yet, but otherwise, yes. TJ.
DeleteOK. You did mention the lower low was needed to distinguish from a failed flat C wave. So crossing the center line was a necessary, but insufficient requirement.
DeleteI know this is not a investment blog but just sharing so you guys can analyze and benefit. Clx looking good ellotwave wise in these treacherous times
ReplyDeleteYou should show a chart, and give your reasons. TJ.
DeleteIs the primary count that minor A wave is still ongoing?
ReplyDeleteIt's a good question. Considering the weekly DJIA, as below,
Deletehttps://www.tradingview.com/x/JhuD7BGz/
And the three-day NYSE, as below,
https://www.tradingview.com/x/3iZ1U0rT/
Then the Principle of Equivalence says that the odds right now that we are still in the A wave, and that we have started a B wave are 'roughly' equal, and to observe for more information before making a firm conclusion. That is because both of the above 'could be' counted as 'fives' in different manners. That we have already finished the A wave is suggested by the NQ/NDX which has not made a new high.
TJ
The 6500s again certainly wouldn't surprise me. Too soon to call things though, a minor new high still has a chance :(
ReplyDeleteES/SPY (CFD) 30-min: from the intraday wave-counting-screen; there is a new lower low in the ES (actually 2 if you count overnight) after prices reversed at the daily pivot ((PP)); then they traveled down to S3. Still whippy price action.
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TJ
The decline in the S&P 500 Index from Wednesday 11 February presents a nice 5-wave channel.
ReplyDeletePotential for a ending 5th wave truncation (just shy of 8 points) ? 🤔
https://www.tradingview.com/x/QhD4OBY0/
ES/SPY (CFD) 5-min: we may be getting a triangle near the high. It might be a barrier triangle, but technically it is already valid if it holds. Watch the high and low.
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TJ
..and if not, there might be a truncation at red *. TJ.
Delete..after the very weak thrust out of the barrier triangle, there is now a downward overlap. TJ.
DeleteA new post is started for the next day.
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