Monday, October 13, 2025

Sideways in More Time After the Pop

SPY cash prices on the 15-minute chart, below, gapped higher (once again) after all the weekend hype including the scary videos. We have written, "if you want a third wave down, even if it's a 'c' wave, you have to be willing to enjoy a second wave up before that." After the gap up, prices traveled sideways - in the process taking more time in the lateral wave than the prior five-waves-down.


Tentative three-touch trend lines can be drawn today but they are just that - tentative. Yes, that could also be a triangle inside that wedge, but it remains to be seen. Usually, if a triangle should not hold up, then its three-wave internal structure allows an expanding diagonal down to form, instead.

It will be interesting to see if a recognizable pattern completes tomorrow. Today should be viewed as an inside day, and a possible consolidation day for a further down move until that is disproved.

Have an excellent start to the evening,

TraderJoe


31 comments:

  1. Looks like futures strongly hinting the hunt is on...if minuette 3 of minute A we take out Friday's lows on another T.A.T.

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    1. If we overlap yesterday's highs then I think the current subwave must be a C or 3. 🤔

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    2. FYI: Opening gap @6,654.71 closed in SPX Index.

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    3. Considering the strength of today's rebound in the SPX Index, I would say that it is also possibly a wave 1.

      This would mean that yesterday's low was an a-b-c corrective bottom, OR, (perhaps less likely) today's low was a truncated wave 5. 🤔

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    4. It hasn't closed above the 18ma. Needs to do that, so far no dice. My guess is a big move down from here.

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  3. Seeing this, 3rd wave is in making for the swing from low today.
    https://www.tradingview.com/x/zafc8mmm/

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    1. Looks like 4th in progress.
      https://www.tradingview.com/x/xyO2PFeG/

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    2. ii was just a flat, we seem to be forming a triangle now for iv.
      https://www.tradingview.com/x/IiSyJt8d/

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  4. ES Downward overlap on 6,674. Not fatal, but a warning. TJ.

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  5. SPY Cash (1 hr) - besides watching the overnight futures, the primary other observation to make is that the EMA-34 is at the same location as the tentative downward three-touch trend line.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/6xJ6cWbv/

    Yes, it is possible to count a flat wave. But we'll see if the high holds.
    TJ

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    1. B or 2 until proven, correct?

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    2. Downward? Not even until there is a lower low, because of the possibility of truncation in cash & less than 90% down in futures. Upward? Wave at the end of day, down, could be 2, b or X. In short, nothing definitive, nothing fatal. TJ.

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  6. Another Hindenburg omen triggered at the close of US markets. There was also one triggered on 10/10 and 8/11.

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  7. Simple Fibonacci calculations show retracement confluence of a W-X-Y (double three) correction of the decline to 10 October as 6754 - 6765 in the December '25 S&P 500 E-Mini Futures and 6705 - 6719 in the S&P 500 (cash) Index:

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/W8QnfUFR/

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    1. Price has entered the retracement confluence zone mentioned above.

      Anxiously awaiting the next TRUMP tweet. 😹

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    2. Price reversed within 2 points of the above mentioned confluence zone and has now overlapped to the downside: and "turning to the right". 😉

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    3. Today it was Scott Bessent at the US Treasury press conference:

      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-equities-surge-after-bessent-greer-suggest-hope-de-escalation-china

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  8. Russell did notch a new ATH yesterday.

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  9. ES/SPY (CFD) 2-hr: price approaching upper parallel. Simplest explanations are 1) triangle, 2) second wave as w-x-y.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/NFct6nVc/

    TJ

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    1. IF the current up wave gets longer in price than the first one, over the parallel, then a third wave can be considered with a flat in the middle. This might explain the SPY truncation. Either way, there are no signal candles downward yet.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/D0eeLX0L/

      TJ

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  10. ES/SPY (CFD) 30-min: from the intraday wave-counting-screen, there is now overlap on L#1 which is a warning. Overlapping L#2 would spell some bigger trouble.

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/DSDsYejm/

    TJ

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    1. Down wave is now longer than prior down wave; 'possible' turn of degree.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/4cnF2o2n/

      TJ

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    2. Now overlapped L#2; I don't see any good ways for the market to be impulsing higher. Possible triangle down; possible diagonal up.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/wEHDsSVT/

      TJ.

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    3. ES 4-hr: I think the count is the blue w-x-y, up, shown below. But, included for completeness is the possible diagonal count. I don't like the form of the contracting diagonal, and where the four is located. So, it is just 'on-the-table' for now, and not active.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/5ES3CNtP/

      Counting downward as best I can at the moment. And back down to the daily pivot point.

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    4. ..also, should the downward wave get longer than the blue 'x', we can take the contracting diagonal off the table. TJ.

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    5. Thanks for the EW "play-by-play" TJ! 👍

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    6. I was thinking that, but the rsi on the 4hr is still very low. X Z to finish tomorrow?

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  11. 2 hour SPY with extended hours.- Current decline has stopped at the lower trend line.

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  12. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ.

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