THEN:
German DAX - Weekly - Posted Jan 11, 2018 |
Although there was some slight down movement at the time, prices had not broken to a lower weekly low yet. Clearly by the lines drawn on the chart, a prediction was made that there would be a lower weekly low, and a larger wave (4) which would attack the lower channel line and likely terminate in the area of a prior wave 4.
Here is the updated chart.
NOW:
German DAX - Weekly - 02/25/2018 |
So far, wave (3) is slightly above the channel to show the portion of the wave with the greatest momentum, as typical, and the decline has appeared to stop at the prior wave 4. That being the case, Elliott suggests we redraw the channel slightly so that is is now touching waves (2) and waves (4) at the bottom edge.
Any weekly higher highs will suggest the fifth wave (5) is in progress. And the first target for the move will be the mid-point of the channel (as always, not trading or investment advice). Should price exceed the mid-channel, then look for the current upper channel line.
And, if price exceeds the current upper channel line, then, it, the upper channel line, will be re-drawn so that so that it is parallel to the lower channel line but touches on (3) rather than (1).
As with all Elliott wave scenarios, this one is probabilistic too. There is some chance, likely a small one, that wave (4) could better define itself with a lower low. And there is some chance, also likely a small one that wave (b) is the high in a wedge-shaped wave. There is also a not-so-small chance that wave (4) could go on to form a triangle with the current wave (4) only being wave (a) of the triangle, and the prior interior (a) &(b) waves being demoted by one degree to a & b.
But at this time, the above wave channel has the right look, and therefore has the greatest odds of playing out in one fourth & fifth wave combination or another. The Fourth Wave Conundrum occurs at every degree of trend, and there is nothing one can do about it due simply to the large number of ways that fourth and fifth waves can form. Yes, we must remember the fifth wave could impulse, but it could also form a grinding diagonal, as well.
There is also no requirement that the fifth wave 'must' make a new high. If we are at the end of a longer wave cycle - like a SuperCycle - wave (5) could certainly truncate, if it wishes, and stop short of the all time high. So, as usual, one must take it a step at a time and not get overly-enthusiastic on one path or the other.
Cheers and enjoy the weekend.
TraderJoe
Joe, one Elliotician stated when you get a deep wave 4 like we just had, wave 5 tends to be a single wave with possible new highs but not necessarily. Appreciate your thoughts if there are EW rules or observations regarding this. Thanks Sam
ReplyDeleteHi Sam. No rules in this regard, but deep fourth waves with only slights new highs or even a truncation - certainly possible.
DeleteET what about time, if we add time we are no where near 120 bars. Does that up the odds of a double zz or triangle? Would a double or triple zz have higher odds? I noticed on my ruler this 4th wave could play out till May.
ReplyDeleteTriangle or combination for more time; no further depth allowed. So, double or triple ZZ very, very unlikely.
DeleteExcellent Joe, Many thanks and regards Brian
ReplyDeleteWhat do you believe about an ending diagonal where your b=i, c/4=ii, 3=iii, (a)=iv and (b)=v
ReplyDeleteThank you,
Erik
If you are talking about a contracting ending diagonal, then the measurements of your suggestion do not work out, because in a contracting diagonal, wave four 'must' be shorter than 'two'. That is the very definition of a contracting diagonal. (v) < (iii) < (i), and (iv) < (ii). Just the opposite for an expanding diagonal.
DeleteYes a contracting ending diagonal. Wave two is ~1085 points deep and wave four is ~ 770 so wave four is shorter than wave two (wave four 171107-180102). It’s also valid to count the waves as zigzags because no wave retraces more than 90% and most waves only consists of 3 waves. It’s also big divergence in ewo and rsi between potential wave (iii) and (v). (v) is also shorter than (iii) which is shorter than (i).
DeleteRegards
Erik
Sorry, I misunderstood the first time. In that case - plausible, but there is no real 'good' evidence for until / unless price leaves the channel quickly to the down side. As long as price is in the channel fourth waves are more likely with a triangle for (4; an E-D possibly in (5).
DeleteSalut joe
ReplyDeleteTu peux faire une analyse pour le CAC 40 vu que je suis français
Je te remercie d'avance
Merci pour ton travail de professionnel
Thanks for the update on the DAX! interesting reading as always.
ReplyDeleteHi Joe, just a thanks for all your efforts. I never comment but look forward to your insights every day. I've been watching / trading the market for years and you're one of the best out there.
ReplyDeleteNo new post since the 25th?
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