Friday, September 5, 2025

"Just a Darn Tootin' Minute"

Between last night and this morning after the payroll report, stock prices as measured by the ES futures were headed higher. And as the daily chart of the ES, below, shows prices got up to - and over - the upper daily Bollinger Band.


It was there that the upper daily Bollinger said, "Hold on just a darn tootin' minute", and fulfilled its function of suggesting that the Smart Money would begin to exit at those prices. This is especially true with the daily slow stochastic above the 70 level and indicating 'over-bought' at the highest prices in history.

So, prices not only stalled there, but they also did a complete outside key reversal day down - making a lower low than Thursday and closing lower than that same day, and all from the highest high in the trend count.

This, again, while not completely 'fatal' to upward market progress, and a downward overlap of a wave i / a up shown this morning in the comments for the prior post, suggest that the market is struggling & failing to make impulsive activity up.

Price is still closing above the 18-day SMA, meaning the bias is still to the upside, and the swingline indicator still has a higher high after a lower low and so is still indeterminate by itself.

Still the outside-day-down cautions us that, "if the high of an outside-day down is exceeded higher within the next two trading sessions, then it can constitute a trap for the bears". So, we need to watch the next two days in particular, very carefully. From an Elliott Wave perspective, there are some remaining legitimate ways that higher highs can be made, but the odds are dropping.

Notice than the minute -3 wave still does not violate degree definitions, so it can extend within reason if that is to be the case. Yet, triple zigzags are supposed to be pretty rare, so that is one reason why the odds are dropping a bit. Better odds would be provided by closes below the 18-day SMA, and a bonafide trend on the swing line under that level.

So, why am I thinking that this is still a -3 wave, probably of an expanded flat, and not the end of the trend? Because, besides the EW count, if one looks at the NYSE Advance/Decline line, it is still basically at an all-time-high. Bear markets have typically not started in that position. And the weekly sentiment indicators - while getting steamy - just haven't fired off clear signals yet. Maybe someday soon. Meanwhile, the economy gives signs of weakening, and this often associated "B" wave type structures.

Have an excellent start to the evening and the weekend,

TraderJoe

14 comments:

  1. It will be interesting to see if the markets can make it to the 6600 range. That would be represent a 10-fold increase in the SPX from the low in 2009. On the Dow, 46,819 corresponds to the 2.618 Fibonacci extension of the 2009 financial-crisis low (6,547).

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  2. SPY daily significant trend-line?
    https://postimg.cc/Q9726zSj

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  3. Thanks Tj. Spx 7th April low 4835 and 5th Sep high 6532- 1697 points is 35%and NASDAQ 7th April low 14784 and 5th Sep high 21878-7094 points is 48% increase, from April low in 5 months. What I understand in now governments are putting money in the stock markets as I do not see private investments.

    I am in Canada and there is no match between growth of TSX and the economy is negatively growing. I did a closing of a house which was sold earlier in 2023 for $cad 3.8 m and now closed for $cad 2.1m. Bankruptcies are at highest level. So in TSX at least will it matter what is the length of the wave (does even EW apply )when Uncle Sam wants it to be its 51st state?

    I know you don't track Canadian markets but the moot question is when governments intervene does EW or any other analysis even captures it historically ?

    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EGSPTSE/

    https://globalnews.ca/news/11355608/canada-gdp-june-2025/

    https://financialpost.com/news/economy/canada-unemployment-rate-9-year-high

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    1. I think most EW theorists now concede that the fundamental thesis of the theory, namely that the wave pattern is driven SOLELY by herd sentiment requires some tweaking. 😊

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    2. I always have an internal battle with this. On one hand I can clearly see the QE wave and the Covid wave on the chart, and on the other, I can argue the response to the influx of cash is as we should expect if we are in 5 of 3 in [Iii].

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    3. The vast majority of US citizens do 'not' want Canada to be the 51st state. We are & were extremely happy with our neighbors to the north. Only one person has advertised that position, and his mental health is questionable, although he got voted into office. It is likely none of his voters ever heard of his maple-leaf and Greenlandia fascinations before the election. Not all delusions of grandeur are drug induced.

      Do not mix the subjects of 1) politics, 2) general news, and 3) Elliott Wave. It will form 'mush' in your head. The only thing that matters is the measurements of the various waves, and what overlaps what. That is hard enough to keep straight, and most people either don't bother or don't have required persistence when it comes to a 'head-scratcher' like a diagonal.

      TJ.

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    4. For example, here is a beautiful example of a diagonal this morning that worked out 'to the tic!'.

      https://www.tradingview.com/x/EZs1fXHk/

      Do you think other people that 1) are distracted by working at other jobs, 2) not seriously interested in EW, 3) worried about reading the news & politics even saw this or applied the rules to it? Not many from what I can tell. Since not, it can be used as one 'edge' in the market. You know the count. They don't.

      TJ

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    5. "Not all delusions of grandeur are drug induced." You made my day. Thanks.

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  4. Right now, the percentage of consumers expecting stock prices to drop is at its lowest in 15 years.

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    1. Can you point to a credible source for that? TJ.

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    2. Here's a chart: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0Qqp4BXcAAWkzf?format=png&name=900x900

      Could just be "noise"

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    3. Thx. Good info but can be premature. Not necessarily noise, just early. TJ.

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  5. ES 5-min: new lows after contracting diagonal above. Diagonal was leading "in some way", even if just an 'a' wave. But remains to be seen. TJ.

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  6. A new post is started for the next day.
    TJ

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